View Full Version : Need More Power
1freaky1
07-26-2008, 11:52 AM
My 02 ranger has the 4.0 in it w/ a 5 speed, it does ok w/ the throttle body spacer, cold air intake and Gibson cat back system but could use more power especially up in the hills, want to eventually put some headers on it, cant afford them or a module just yet so does anyone have any other ideas that I can try? I have 4:10s in it now but eventually plan on 4:56s I know that will help a lil also. Thanks for any ideas.
bronc_17113
07-27-2008, 12:01 AM
drop a 302 in it
rwmorrisonjr
07-27-2008, 09:36 AM
What he said. There aren't many upgrades to the 4.0 out there. The gearing will help with the hills depending upon what size tires you're running.
shawns 64 F100
07-27-2008, 09:53 AM
the best upgrade would be camshaft and head work but I doubt there is much available as far as camshafts for a 4.0, if any. I imagine if headers are available them camshafts are.(one without the other is useless) which in turn youll need headwork, and then you can order a cam to match your gearing so it all works together
Digger
07-27-2008, 07:08 PM
http://www.moranav6racing.com/category.html?CategoryID=32
shawns 64 F100
07-27-2008, 07:15 PM
damn them cams are pricey
REDNECK
07-28-2008, 02:44 PM
hey I Have The Same Problem, I Have A 02 Ford Ranger Xlt 4x4 Off Road. I Going To Get A K&n Cold Air Intake System And Jba Header System. I Heard That Paxton Supercharger Make A Supercharger For Ranger. Have U Seen Diesel Power Magazine And Diesel Builder Magazine They Have A 1998 Ford Ranger 2wd With A 4 Cylinder 4bt Cummins Diesel Engine With 33 Inch Tires. It Called Staked Ranger
1freaky1
07-29-2008, 09:57 AM
http://www.moranav6racing.com/category.html?CategoryID=32
This looks interesting, Thanks for the link.:thumbsup:
1freaky1
07-29-2008, 10:00 AM
I have a 1969 302 I built upto a 331ci w/ 403hp but it wouldn't work with the emission bs we have for the year of the truck.Since this is also my daily driver I have to follow with something that'll meet those standards. Thanks for all your input so far there some good ideas coming in!
Digger
07-29-2008, 11:09 PM
I have a 1969 302 I built upto a 331ci w/ 403hp but it wouldn't work with the emission bs we have for the year of the truck.Since this is also my daily driver I have to follow with something that'll meet those standards. Thanks for all your input so far there some good ideas coming in!
Are you running larger tires or lift? I had a '99 with the pushrod 4.0 and 4.10 gears and it ran like a raped ape. Yours should have the cammer 4.0 which makes about 40 more HP. The biggest thing holding those trucks back is their weight. My '99 weighed 500+ lbs more then my '93 in stock trim. Shaving weight will help make more use of your HP. What kind of mileage are you getting? Do you have a pic of your cold air intake? A lot of those kits end up drawing hot air from the engine compartment and cutting into your HP.
1freaky1
07-30-2008, 10:49 AM
Are you running larger tires or lift? I had a '99 with the pushrod 4.0 and 4.10 gears and it ran like a raped ape. Yours should have the cammer 4.0 which makes about 40 more HP. The biggest thing holding those trucks back is their weight. My '99 weighed 500+ lbs more then my '93 in stock trim. Shaving weight will help make more use of your HP. What kind of mileage are you getting? Do you have a pic of your cold air intake? A lot of those kits end up drawing hot air from the engine compartment and cutting into your HP.
Yeah the weight issue is killing me for hp, especailly with my bumpers and winch I built for it, I'm averaging 15-17mpg's. One big issue is that the truck origanlly came from Chicago alot lower elevation than we are here wonder what ford put on the ones sold here as their high altittude packages. I guess I can call the dealer on that one. As for lift & tires I have a 3"Body Lift and running the 365/75R16s w/ the 4:10 gears. Was thinking of losing the bed like a few others I've seen on here.
mattadams
07-30-2008, 10:57 AM
I dont think they include different equipment for any altitudes, thats what O2 sensors and so forth are for so they don't have to. Of course you could get a more open throttle body/MAF but I think you'll find you are dumping money with minimal results.
Getting rid of the bed is not really safe, unless you replace it with something of similiar weight, in which case you defeat the purpose. Just take the bed off and do a hard brake and see what happens.
Digger
07-30-2008, 07:12 PM
Yeah the weight issue is killing me for hp, especailly with my bumpers and winch I built for it, I'm averaging 15-17mpg's. One big issue is that the truck origanlly came from Chicago alot lower elevation than we are here wonder what ford put on the ones sold here as their high altittude packages. I guess I can call the dealer on that one. As for lift & tires I have a 3"Body Lift and running the 365/75R16s w/ the 4:10 gears. Was thinking of losing the bed like a few others I've seen on here.
365/75R16s are roughly equal to 37's which means that 4.10's are not nearly enough gear. You should be running 4.88's with that size of tire. But that might be a typo because it would be hard to fit 37's with only a 3" body lift.
If you went to a larger tire you will need to re-gear to keep the engine in its powerband.
shawns 64 F100
07-30-2008, 09:52 PM
he probably has 265s
1freaky1
07-31-2008, 11:25 AM
yeah its 265s didnt even catch that typo
1freaky1
07-31-2008, 11:28 AM
I dont think they include different equipment for any altitudes, thats what O2 sensors and so forth are for so they don't have to. Of course you could get a more open throttle body/MAF but I think you'll find you are dumping money with minimal results.
Getting rid of the bed is not really safe, unless you replace it with something of similiar weight, in which case you defeat the purpose. Just take the bed off and do a hard brake and see what happens.
I was planning on a cage and some diamond plate aluminum acrossed the frame like a few of the guys are doing its still up in the air tho as for a final descion. butt thanks for the input on this with the braking and all
1freaky1
07-31-2008, 11:31 AM
I dont think they include different equipment for any altitudes, thats what O2 sensors and so forth are for so they don't have to. Of course you could get a more open throttle body/MAF but I think you'll find you are dumping money with minimal results.
Getting rid of the bed is not really safe, unless you replace it with something of similiar weight, in which case you defeat the purpose. Just take the bed off and do a hard brake and see what happens.
I know when I bought my 98 ranger it came with a high altittude package on it but the only things diff I see between the two is some extra insulation in the engine compartment (under hood & battery wrap) and thats about it
1freaky1
07-31-2008, 11:39 AM
Well everything is on hold now due to a shot clutch so until that is fixed nothing is happening.
1freaky1
08-17-2008, 01:27 AM
I know when I bought my 98 ranger it came with a high altittude package on it but the only things diff I see between the two is some extra insulation in the engine compartment (under hood & battery wrap) and thats about it
I checked with Ford and they told me that the only difference in the High altitude package is how the ECM is programmed so above 4thousand feet it will be easier to adjust the motor reguirements. Thats it!
1freaky1
08-17-2008, 01:51 AM
I was planning on a cage and some diamond plate aluminum acrossed the frame like a few of the guys are doing its still up in the air tho as for a final descion. butt thanks for the input on this with the braking and all
Like what Digger did with his Ranger, something similar to that is what I'm planning
FORDFAN
09-05-2008, 04:34 PM
When I Had My 01 Ranger W/4.0l, I Had Dual Exhaust Added, And Man, It Definitely Helped...not To Mention It Sounded Sweet! I Had The Automatic Trans, Though...it Always Had Plenty Of Power Before I Added The Duals. Not Sure Why You're Not Getting The Oomph You Need For Hills, Etc.
1freaky1
09-06-2008, 01:41 AM
On the duals was it full duals or from the cats back? Mine has four cats on it and makes for a pain the ass to work on, wish I could get rid of two of them and seperate the other two for full duals but it has a 3rd o2 sensor after all 4 cats not sure what to do with it unless I do a X pipe and put the last sesor in it.
mattadams
09-06-2008, 09:40 AM
If you are considering dual exhaust, I'd say stay away from the "kits" like the Gibson, Borla or many others that come with pipes, tips, muffler, etc. Find yourself a GOOD exchaust shop that can whop you something up, you'll save a lot of money and won't have to mess with those crappy bolt on connections that typically have to be welded anyways.
1freaky1
09-06-2008, 11:09 AM
Yeah it has the Gibson catback stainless system on it now but want to pitch it soon.
shawns 64 F100
09-06-2008, 11:10 AM
If you are considering dual exhaust, I'd say stay away from the "kits" like the Gibson, Borla or many others that come with pipes, tips, muffler, etc. Find yourself a GOOD exchaust shop that can whop you something up, you'll save a lot of money and won't have to mess with those crappy bolt on connections that typically have to be welded anyways.
Matt, I bought a magnaflow dual system for my 69 mustang it was a sweet kit for only 450 bucks. I cant get a muffler shop to make me a system that cheap around here, my 4 pipes Henry bent for me were 200 and I did the install.
If anyone does need a good system, it is going to be spendy, but Henry at Hanksville Hot rods has in house mandrell bender and can custom fit for you. he does alot of other off road systems and cages as well
1freaky1
09-06-2008, 11:12 AM
cool, thanks shawn.
FORDFAN
09-08-2008, 11:24 AM
it was just from the cat back...but it was sweet!! i couldn't believe how much more oomph i had!! i wanna dual out my explorer, but it would be too expensive, (around $400), due to the independent suspension...my 4.0 in that hauls butt also!! i do want the engine to sound custom. hopefully you can figure something out for performance!
On the duals was it full duals or from the cats back? Mine has four cats on it and makes for a pain the ass to work on, wish I could get rid of two of them and seperate the other two for full duals but it has a 3rd o2 sensor after all 4 cats not sure what to do with it unless I do a X pipe and put the last sesor in it.
REDNECK
09-15-2008, 04:56 PM
So Guys Says That Dual Exhaust System Is Better. What Would Be The Best Muffler For A Single Cat Back System. I Want Loud As Possible. I Want To Get Rid Of That Cheap Glasspack Muffler From Might Muffler. I Planning To Get Dual Exhuast System In The Future. I Between Magnaflow Or Flowmaster Or Cherrybomb
shawns 64 F100
09-15-2008, 05:32 PM
well the glass pack is same as cherry bomb and if you want loud you will want a short glass pack Edelbrock also makes one that is a straight through type I would call Hanksville because they have some top notch mufflers on the shelfs. Jen (Hanks wife) was showing me a 3" diameter which was only about 3-4" long lol with a tiny bit of mesh inside, basically a open exhaust with something like you would consider for a dirt bike lol
I like my Magnaflows for a nice tone but not loud at all flowmasters. I have no clue
My Warlocks (flowtech by holley brand) can be uncorked for a strip use I have not run the 460 with them un corked only through the mufflers and they sound good, even better without any exhaust through the shorties lol
I guess what I am trying to say is the options are endless
1freaky1
09-16-2008, 09:42 AM
I just took the Gibson cat back system off the ranger and replaced it with a Raptor muffler and ran it out infront of the rear tire, From the outlet side of it I went down a size in pipe which actually improved my power band quite a bit to where you can feel it, to make it louder I need to take off the resonator tip I am running. But it has a decent tone as is.
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