Rant about government bailouts and "emergency help"

[mattadams]

This is just my rant. It seems like our government only takes care of those who choose not to take care of themselves. I have been watching the tornado coverage over the last week or so and it seems that FEMA swooped right in and is happy to help people, but not everyone, just those without insurance... so if people don't protect themselves, don't worry the government will be there to protect you if something bad happens... seems a lot like the people who got into mortgages they had no business being in but the government swooped in to bail everyone out. Screw it! Maybe I'll do what everyone else does, spend like theres no tomorrow, don't bother with the necessities like insurance and just know the government will be there to bail me out when I get into trouble.
I'm sorry but if I didn't have home insurance and a tornado came along and took off everything I own, I don't think the government owes me a damn dime... that's why I pay for homeowners insurance, so if something does happen I'm coverteed. Who woudl've thought I could just sit back and not worry about things like that and let the government cover all my damages.

To me I think the government does way too much to protect morons, and it comes out of my pocket to the tune of 30%+ of my income going to taxes every year. I think FEMA should be completely abolished, and if people can't protect themselves with proper insurance then screw them when bad stuff happens.

[Warrlord]

To me I think the government does way too much to protect morons, and lazy worthless assholes that don't want to work for a living and it comes out of my pocket to the tune of 30%+ of my income going to taxes every year.

That's one of my short takes on it.

I hear ya Matt. I better get ready for work now or I'll be typing (in agreement with you) for a looooong time.

[shawns 64 F100]

I didnt know FEMA worked that way, WOW!
I was in a mortgage I couldnt get refinanced in after 3 years of trying with a credit score of almost 700 points. More government bullshit causing the market to go into a huge slump. A 117k loan and nobody would do shit. The fix was to help those who were going into foreclosure and werent behind on their payments, how does that work out? I had to foreclose and didnt get help at all along with about 800,000 others nationwide. Why do these people that run our country have their heads up their asses so far they cant see whats going on? busting my ass for 8 years installing and sanding floors making decent money and working twice as hard as I did as a mechanic, as well as trying to run a small business isnt paying off, due to the way things are run. guess they want us all on a government paycheck which I will refuse to go that route.

I keep looking for health insurance and have not yet found any I can afford. Self employed brings it up almost 3 times what it was when working for a big business. :mad:

[RayLCC]

I guess I can see both sides. As a teenager I remember driving by "the projects" on some of the parts runs I was sent on for work.
There were lines of full sized Ford and Chevy trucks, most of them customized in one way or another lined up along the curb. Everytime I passed, more than a few of them had their owners standing around them drinking beer and chatting.
I would get pissed! Here I was, a young kid who could only afford a Ford Escort to drive on my part-time/full-time (depending on summers and breaks, ect.)income and here these guys were, kicking back, drinking, and enjoying life on the money I had to give up on my paycheck.
I think we should have a safety net to help those truly in need. That's what living in a society is and should be about... Those with more, help those with less to get more. Inturn, those that were helped to get more return the favor and help others less fortunate than themselves.
That said, I think the system should have checks and balances in place to weed out the people that just want a handout and a government supported lifestyle.

I have no problem with FEMA going into New Orleans and helping a community of poor, working-class blacks, many of whom were third or more generation home-owners whose homes were the only asset they had and simply couldn't afford insurance even if they wanted to get it.

I do have a problem with FEMA NOT helping those people in New Orleans and then marching into a middle class town, surrounded by middle class and wealthy farmers and offering to give handouts to cover for property that the large majority of homeowners in the area COULD afford insurance on and simply didn't get it. Ok, I guess I should wrap up this confusing rant.

[mattadams]

Well I certainly agree Ray, I think there are too many people who just wait for the government to figure things out for them, and they know they will. I know Katrina was a big deal, and a lot of people lost everything they had, but people living in new orleans had been told for over 100 years since they were just starting to build the levys that it didn't make much sense to live below sea level relying on man-made levys and things, and thats why they couldn't get flood insurance... and I think the government did a lot to help but there were far too many people who did absolutely nothing to help themselves, sat around in government paid for hotel rooms just waiting for the government to find them another place to live (and pay for it) etc. and thats part of what ticked me off so much. Our welfare system is unfortunately set up so that you can go on it and not ever really have to go off it, which gives anyone little motivation to try harder. Why work your ass off trying to do a job and not get fired and have to put up with crappy bosses, lousy schedules etc. if you can just sit at home, keep popping out babies, watching Jerry Springer and get paid just a little bit less?

[RayLCC]

And better yet, supplement you're income by BEING on Jerry Springer! Sure, you can do the "Talk show circuit" Go on Maury Povich to find out which of the 756,324 men might be your kids father. Go on Springer and fight with the other women he's with and then hit Dr.Phil for counseling. Then write a book about your experiences and get it on the Oprah book club. :-)

I agree about the building under sea level. The next storm will just wash away what was rebuilt.

[Warrlord]

Our welfare system is unfortunately set up so that you can go on it and not ever really have to go off it, which gives anyone little motivation to try harder. Why work your ass off trying to do a job and not get fired and have to put up with crappy bosses, lousy schedules etc. if you can just sit at home, keep popping out babies, watching Jerry Springer and get paid just a little bit less?

Even though I'd never do it, the thought has crossed my mind to................

Me & the wife will quit our jobs, take our retirement accounts in a lump sum, pay the 10% penalty for early withdrawel, pay off our house, credit cards, motorcycle, etc. Then we'll go to the welfare office & cry about not being able to find a job for $25.00 or more an hour. I'll do side work out of my garage, under the table, tax free & probably bring in a few hundered bucks a week while waiting for my Gov check to arrive. I can start living high on the hog at the gov's expense.........even though it wouldn't be at the gov's expense.......it'd be at the working taxpayers expense.

However, we don't have the right frame of mind to live off of other people so it probably wouldn't work for us. We'll just keep trudging along like we do & deal with it unfortunately.

[Starkman]

just those without insurance... so if people don't protect themselves, don't worry the government will be there to protect you if something bad happens... seems a lot like the people who got into mortgages they had no business being in but the government swooped in to bail everyone out.

Just see what happens to the people with insurance that does not cover all the expences. They will have half finished repairs and the "dumb asses" will have a nice new house. Then get there new premium for a "incident" increase to pay for the poor insurance companies losses.

[Tilt168]

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thats all LT has to say about this

freaking leaches

*edit* not y'all

[clavos]

Since we are ranting about the Government, I'll twist it into the "gas tax holiday" idea. What good is this going to do? They should focus all the gas tax money on improving our road to become more efficient. If we have computers that can land jumbo jets, how come we have to stop at every single stop light. By far, this has got to be the biggest waste of fuel there is. They make a law that all 2007 and newer cars have TPMS, or the government telling us our tires are low. Almost none of the intersections here in Arapahoe County have right turn lanes and the left turn lanes are too short. Improving traffic flow would be more beneficial than not paying tax for 3 months. My :twocents:

[shawns 64 F100]

Matt, dont those people up there in Windsor have homeowners insurance also? I thought everyone had to have that as required by law?
As far as health insurance. I dont know why it keeps getting tougher and tougher to get. My uncle is in that field hes a Attty for a major insurance agency, He told me over a year ago it was going to change for the better for everyone, but it seems like its still going in the wrong direction. My thoughts were if it was affordable for everyone then NOBODY should complain about someone else getting cared for because they could be in the same boat one day. the biggest problem is the companies get scammed by both sides and they end up losing money ( which is always the factor in this subject, nobody cares about the people who are actually sick, just the money) If everyone only had to pay 100 bucks a month per person everyone would be insured and everyone could be taken care of. but that wont happen due to people working in the field think they need a raise so they can go buy things they dont even need. so much for having people in the medical field that dont care about helping others, now the govt steps in and gives help to those who need it. big nasty circle there with greedy folks that just want to get paid. I am starting to look into alternative meds and health care over Western medecine just to boycot it all, just like everything else I try to boycot LOL

boy I think I drank too much :coffee: today I keep rambling on and on and on

oh yeah clavos I agree, roundabouts are the way to get rid of traffic lights and eliminate huge energy consumptions from the 67 wattas each bulbs in them stupid lamps as well as not having to some to a complete stop and causing more emissions by having to speed up again, plus the congestion it causes

[Gunner]

Welcome to the pre-socialist era of the United States of America. Come November, I think we will have to transition into the socialist era of the US. People are stupid, and the government is stupid for wasting time on stupid people.

[shawns 64 F100]

Welcome to the pre-socialist era of the United States of America. Come November, I think we will have to transition into the socialist era of the US. People are stupid, and the government is stupid for wasting time on stupid people.
Boy, isn't that the truth. what blows my mind is how we need Red light cameras to get people running red lights. I think if you run one you deserve to crash and if you get hit by someone thats going through a redl ight right after it changed you deserve to get hit too just for not looking both ways before taking off through that intersection. The govt would rather take that money for the auto repairs that generates back into the community for themselves. :mad:

[Walking Eagle]

Since we are ranting about the Government, I'll twist it into the "gas tax holiday" idea. What good is this going to do? They should focus all the gas tax money on improving our road to become more efficient. If we have computers that can land jumbo jets, how come we have to stop at every single stop light. By far, this has got to be the biggest waste of fuel there is. They make a law that all 2007 and newer cars have TPMS, or the government telling us our tires are low. Almost none of the intersections here in Arapahoe County have right turn lanes and the left turn lanes are too short. Improving traffic flow would be more beneficial than not paying tax for 3 months. My :twocents:
I've had the same thoughts about red lights. I can be the only vehicle on 104th Ave. or north Federal Blvd. early in the morning and have to stop at every light if I do the speed limit.

[Tilt168]

y'all should see how koreans drive....stop light? whats that?

[mattadams]

Matt, dont those people up there in Windsor have homeowners insurance also? I thought everyone had to have that as required by law?
That's probably why everyone in Colorado has to have auto insurance, but yet you still have to have uninsured motorist protection, because not everyone follows the law...

[mattadams]

y'all should see how koreans drive....stop light? whats that?
My brother is back on leave from korea and said the same thing... Only place where stop lights are "optional" :)

[Tilt168]

My brother is back on leave from korea and said the same thing... Only place where stop lights are "optional" :)

yeah and guess what my current job is? i drive a us government marked vehical through korea....sharing the road with korean drivers....and guess what? if there is an "accident" who is ALWAYS at fault? the us driver
so i drive defensive and act like everyone else on the road is a moron. which, by and large, they are