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crazy rob
11-04-2004, 12:28 PM
As most of you have heard not to long ago Target stated that for the holiday season, they will not allow Salvation Army to have "ringers" infront of any Target store. I don't know about you, but I took offense to this since a lot of what Salvation Army makes a year is through the ringers. I have also volunteered at Salvation Army and saw first hand that they need that money.

This year I am going to boycott Target and I hope that you do the same.

Glass
11-04-2004, 12:37 PM
Typical corporate america...Maybe ill go to Target at colorado mills sometime during the holiday season, pick a bell up off the shelf, and just start ringing it.....if they even sell bells anymore. i wonder if corporations can see thru the "begging" stereotype of organizations like the savation army, and se thet they arent begging...theyre just making it convienent for people who give a shit about others and not just themselves a convienent way to contribute. Ohh well...im sure this will piss a few people of...it should strike a nerve with alot of people I know... :protest: i have some ideas turning now, and i think theyre all perfectly legal.... :twisted: I could see a corporation offering the salvation army a percentage of sales, etc...in return for not being there, that way the salvation army still benefits some, but stiff arming them is messed up...thanks for this post too, i was pretty aggrivated today, but no im calmed down some....because of my mini rant here..
Ohh, do you have another website or something that i can direct people too, if you do ( for a source ), ill start some posts in some nation wide forums.
I guess wal-Mart limits the salvation army to 14 days a year soliciting at any store....not great..but better than target.

9news story (http://www.9news.com/acm_news.aspx?OSGNAME=KUSA&IKOBJECTID=bdb53233-0abe-421a-0125-cfd5bd516915&TEMPLATEID=0c76dce6-ac1f-02d8-0047-c589c01ca7bf)
---John

Tray
11-04-2004, 12:45 PM
You have to understand their point of view though too. If they let the salvation army people stand at their stores, they have to let anyone else who asks do the same, or they'll get sued.

I think it sucks that the world has come to a point where anyone will sue anyone else for any damn thing they please. It leaves us with situations like this.

I'm sure they really would like to continue to help out the SA, but when it comes down to being sued by who knows what other organizations, it's just not worth it.

Personally, I doubt the boycott would help a thing, unless you plan to stand out with signs telling them why you're not shopping there. I'll just make sure to stop by Wal-Mart and donate as I can.

UrbanCowboy
11-04-2004, 01:52 PM
I get 20% off at Target. Can I count that as Boycoting? They make less off me than others, HAHA! But I can't shop at Walmart for ethical reasons so I don't know what to do. :)

crazy rob
11-04-2004, 02:50 PM
I understand the whole sue thing that can happend if target lets one group ring but not another. I say let Salvation Army have a selection of targets they can ring at and let this group ring at another and so on. Target is too scared to stand up for something without worry about what will happen or figure something out to do besides not having the ringers.

The whole hot cup of coffee at Mc Donald's lawsuit screwed everyone over. No one can do anything with out a reprocustion(sp?) of being sued for some dumb reason. I had a customer at starbucks that aciddently had coffee spill on his hand and arm (if he was any closer I would of got him on the face :twisted: ). The shift manager went into action saying how sorry we are, blah, blah, blah. Got his name, etc. and sent the information on to our offices. A couple of days later I heard the jack@$$ got some money for the accident. Kind of like hush money but still it's stupid that he got money for it. Sorry, enough venting about the suing crap.

Walking Eagle
11-04-2004, 04:36 PM
It does not bother me if Target does not allow Salvation Army to stand in front of their stores. Target has had a ban on store front solicitation for many years and in the past made an exception for the Salvation Army. Other stores have similar bans, but Target is the largest store to have this ban. Target still donates over $2 million dollars weekly to charities in it's communities they serve.

Walmart allows Salvation Army plus many other charities to solicit, but they limit the number hours each charity is allowed to be present so they do not conflict with each other.

mattadams
11-04-2004, 05:44 PM
I personally hate going to stores that have soliciters out front, whether its the girl scouts selling cookie, some hockey team selling gold c, or boy scouts selling popcorn, it ticks me off. i applaud Target for having an actual policy against that crap.
But on the other hand, I like what the salvation army does... but if people want to give, they can give at the other hundreds ofs pots where the bell ringers are I'm sure... just my take.
I swear theres some company out there that does nothing but attack Target, my thought is its run by Wal-Mart. How else would the fact that Target didn't give $100 to some military memorial fund thing make it into my email box so frequently?

clavos
11-04-2004, 08:25 PM
I'll boycott. I haven't been to Target in years anyway.

rino351
11-04-2004, 08:32 PM
I understand Targets point of view, but I also believe in what the Salvation Army does.
So, I say you can still shop at Target, just go to Wal-Mart or JC Penny or somewhere else to donate to the Salvation Army.
They are everywhere, just have to go Park Meadows or something and they will be there.
I am with crazy rob on the whole sueing thing. It's stupid-- everyone will sue anyone about anything for everything (got that? :? ).

rpenner54
11-05-2004, 06:14 AM
The entire problem is people just don't give all year round. (I am guilty) So they only come out on the holidays because it gets to people when they see those people ringing the bells and they think about how fortunate they are and they dig for a few pennies.

I don't know that I would boycott Target as so much as write them a letter and have others write them letters as well, and let them know that its not good that they are picking up this practice.

clavos
11-05-2004, 11:31 PM
My attorny just informed me that I can sue you just for saying I'm stupid for wanting to sue. LOL..j/k. It is crazy the way things are getting. I was involved in an accident at work a couple of years ago that could have made me wealthy, probably very wealthy, but suing isn't my style. I'm satisfied that the loser that caused the accident is rotting in prison right now, and will be for some time to come.

Walking Eagle
11-20-2004, 01:29 AM
Here's some information from Forbes magazine that I found and wanted to pass along.

http://www.forbes.com/2002/11/21/cx_aw_1121give.html

http://www.forbes.com/maserati/cx_aw_1023giving.html

mattadams
11-20-2004, 06:32 AM
Wow Jeff, that was a good read. Reall puts things into perspectvie.
I know you weren't just going out to forbes.com though! LOL.