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Glass
02-16-2008, 05:31 PM
Heres 2 more videos of the dodge running. All i have to do now is build the trans crossmember, secure the fuel cell in, and put on some exhaust hangars and it is good to go. I actually popped it into gear and i know i have atleast reverse and 1st!! lol, now i just hope 2nd gear and 3rd gear are there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8iEKBtoYww
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5UvUS1Y5YA4
shawns 64 F100
02-17-2008, 10:11 PM
sounds good mon! I am hurting to get something done, seems like everytime I turn around I have to do something other than work on my own, plus the freaking weather has put a damper on me, no energy or motivation and now I gots moiself a cold :mad:
Hypoid
02-17-2008, 10:31 PM
OK, I'll say it: Even though it's a Che...a Che...one of those engines, it does sound good!
At first I thought the sound was really crappy. I had the volume all the way up and could barely hear it. Then I unplugged the headphones. :-P
Glass
02-17-2008, 11:20 PM
sounds good mon! I am hurting to get something done, seems like everytime I turn around I have to do something other than work on my own, plus the freaking weather has put a damper on me, no energy or motivation and now I gots moiself a cold :mad:
See thats the problem with having a job..lol..
You do know you have just over 1 month and 20 days until the first test and tune!!!
Colds suck, luckily they wont last long and youll have pleanty of health to throw at the truck soon.
Glass
02-17-2008, 11:21 PM
OK, I'll say it: Even though it's a Che...a Che...one of those engines, it does sound good!
At first I thought the sound was really crappy. I had the volume all the way up and could barely hear it. Then I unplugged the headphones. :-P
Thanks..lol..I like the flowmasters that are on it now. Eventually i want to d a 2 into 1 dual 2.25" to 3.5" single exhaust on the truck and get another one of those exact flowmasters for it.
I listened to it also on headphones..and was disappointed, then got it loaded on the you tube and was a little more happy.
Still doesnt sound as good as a ford though!!
shawns 64 F100
02-18-2008, 05:58 PM
I dont go to test and tunes, maybe when I have something that needs Test and tuned I will. Thats for the 67.
I am having a get together on the first weekend of Test and tuning too! lol or somewhere around there. Need to make money to buy glass and weather stripping and also need to make the 64 road Legal as well as NHRA legal. going to take some money. I can sand it down on a saturday and primer it epozy black so it dont look so rough. but the money needs to come in first
I did make ten bucks off craigs list last saturday lol
Glass
02-18-2008, 06:06 PM
Need to make money to buy glass and weather stripping and also need to make the 64 road Legal as well as NHRA legall
http://denver.craigslist.org/pts/577379613.html
http://denver.craigslist.org/pts/551597322.html
shawns 64 F100
02-18-2008, 06:36 PM
I dont have a 67-72 lol
shawns 64 F100
02-18-2008, 06:39 PM
you know if I could make glass I would, I hate spending money on stuff especially when its going to be alot. the complete Weatherstripping kit from Dennis Carpenter will cost about 130 bucks LMC from china is 120. plus a windshield I really would like one with the original green stripe at the top but that will end up being 300 bucks bill gave me a number to a guy that does the glass work, I just need to call him and get the money, thats all it takes is money, right?
Glass
02-18-2008, 06:53 PM
Yeah, all it takes is money. Thats the shitty part of it.
Glass
02-18-2008, 06:55 PM
I dont have a 67-72 lol
I have a hard enough time remembering my years.
64 truck, 67 mustang, right?
shawns 64 F100
02-18-2008, 07:00 PM
yup here is what I need just from memory not to mention I need a good front bumper im prob going with a painted one - Your Shopping Cart (http://www.icimedia.com/cgi-bin/cart.cgi?look|vfordcart)
Glass
02-18-2008, 07:30 PM
yup here is what I need just from memory not to mention I need a good front bumper im prob going with a painted one - Your Shopping Cart (http://www.icimedia.com/cgi-bin/cart.cgi?look%7Cvfordcart)
Shows me an empty shopping cart. But im guessing it was a nice pretty penny...
Hypoid
02-18-2008, 07:34 PM
Still doesnt sound as good as a ford though!! Here is some FE therapy for ya.
http://www.supermotors.net/vehicles/registry/media/609390
Jay Brown is at it again...tunnel rams this time.
http://www.network54.com/Forum/74182/thread/1203312895/Some+interesting+data+-+Tunnel+Ram+dyno+results
It's gotta be rough having an engine dyno in your milk barn! LOL
Dayum Shawn! Pull-N-Save just had a couple slicks. I bet they are en-route to China by now. I'll keep my eyes peeled for you.
shawns 64 F100
02-18-2008, 08:05 PM
thanks mike, I havent made it down there for a while since money has been sooooooooooooo tight. I am really needing to get this done but it has to wait a little longer, I dont know if I would be happy with a used windshield and seals. thats why I took them out, the glass was cracked but the rubber was severely dry rotted, truck would look funny with all the new glass and rubber in the doors and old cracked stuff up front and back lol
anyways here is ten minutes more of stress relief, this is actually amazing and hypnotizing
YouTube - V8 Engine Block Machined From Solid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsmiIeAkE-o&feature=related)
Glass
02-18-2008, 08:31 PM
Holy shit. I could watch that for days on end.
shawns 64 F100
02-18-2008, 08:35 PM
Does that make us Nerds?
Glass
02-18-2008, 08:48 PM
Im not quite sure.... We would have to start saying Pwned, and ins3rt1n9 num83rs 1nt0 0ur w0r6s.
There might be one type of "nerds"...
Wonka Sour NErds!!!!!
shawns 64 F100
02-18-2008, 09:00 PM
what did you just say?
Glass
02-18-2008, 09:06 PM
damnit they took the pic down form here crap. It was snoop dogg with a giant box of wonka sour nerds.
Glass
02-18-2008, 09:15 PM
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i190/Nikkiglaser/snoop_dogg_and_sour_nerds.jpg
shawns 64 F100
02-18-2008, 09:15 PM
oh well, I am such a nerd I just took a shower and now I feel like going out in the garage and getting dirty. al lthe talk about work has started to make me feel like I need to get out there. Maybe I will get something done tomorrow after work
shawns 64 F100
02-18-2008, 09:20 PM
my img code isnt working,:mad: its just leaving a red x so here ya go john
http://s155.photobucket.com/albums/s318/shawnstang67/?action=view¤t=ogre.jpg
Glass
02-18-2008, 09:34 PM
Hahahaha..
Screw it, water is cheap, go out to the agrage and atleast stand there and make a list of the shit you need to do to have the truck ready.
3 months ago my list was about 4 pages long, now i have 2 things left to make the car drivable (trans crossmember, exhaust hangars), and about 9 overall that i want to have done before the first race (wiring turn signals, brake lights, swapping out cracked glass, find and put on front parking lamps, bulkhead off trunk, build driveshaft loop, build battery hold down, install trans cooler, lift bars).
You know my situation, but if you need help whenever you have time off let me know. imma competent parts installer...asslong as there are instructions...:rolleyes:
shawns 64 F100
02-18-2008, 09:58 PM
I had a list made up. I have an entire organizer I bought for this project alone to keep track of all my products bought, receipts, manuals for everything. and a photo album, business cards etc etc I started a journal even in there. I havent looked at it since I moved lol
Glass
02-18-2008, 10:16 PM
lol. well crap. i just have a big manilla envelope i keep all my reciepts in and a box i keep all my instructions / warranties / manuals in.
Ill have to add everything up, see how much i have spent. How much i have traded, and how much i have just used that i had laying around.
shawns 64 F100
02-18-2008, 10:26 PM
well I decided that if I was going to do this, I wanted to make everything nicely organized and everything done in order, then somewhere along the line after about 200 beers I lost track lol. I bring that organizer to bandimere sometimes to show people what ive been doing. photos from when I first got to work on it from a polaroid to more developed ones, now most of them are on digital so I will have to figure out how to make them into print to finish the album or take them all over with a regular camera
Glass
02-18-2008, 10:31 PM
You can go to walmart with your digi cam card and have them al put on film prints. I think its about 28 cents each print. They turn out pretty good too.
I found this photo of the dodge today, and sat here and thought about the how much work i have actually put into the damn thing.
http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v190/222/60/610370366/n610370366_2301645_8086.jpg
I guess beer will do that to record keeping lol...
I think i have gone thru 1 case of beer since i started working on the dodge. Some of the late nights i would crack one open after i was done working, to drink while i was cleaning tools up, windexing the windows, etc.
I have one of those disposable cameras in the car that i will have to get developed soon. Im hoping to put together a small book of photos start to finish aswell as an official 'list' of parts when i get it on the road.
shawns 64 F100
02-18-2008, 10:33 PM
yes you have done a ton of work to that dodge. I deleted most of my pics on my card. I wonder if I can get them off my computer or photobucket and still have them transfered to paper like you said?
Glass
02-18-2008, 10:35 PM
Ohh, and i just filled out my 2008 driver registration for Bandimere...put the "vehicle color" down as being "Dustin Travis Grey"..wonder if they will announce that. I bet Bruce Kamada will...:D
Glass
02-18-2008, 10:36 PM
yes you have done a ton of work to that dodge. I deleted most of my pics on my card. I wonder if I can get them off my computer or photobucket and still have them transfered to paper like you said?
I think you can save them to a photo cd and then take that cd in???
I cant remember, but i think you can do that..
I know i had some photos of my old 60 t-bird on a computer and somehow got them into film.
Glass
02-18-2008, 10:38 PM
You just motivated me to search my entinre computer, and find every photo i have of my truck and the dodge and put them into their own folders lol.. I think ill do the same with all racing photos i have of my club and friends also..
shawns 64 F100
02-18-2008, 10:47 PM
lol. ok im out of here my head cold is starting back up and meds arent kicking in yet, later
Hypoid
02-19-2008, 12:06 AM
I wonder if I can get them off my computer or photobucket and still have them transfered to paper like you said? Yep, load em on a USB flash drive, or cache them in a webmail account.
I'll email documents to myself and open them at the library just to get them printed. The King Stupids here does digital to photo paper, they let you do your own cropping and whatever. I've also seen online where you can send pics in and have printed if you don't want to transfer them to a storage media.
Glass
02-23-2008, 07:34 PM
Welded up a transmission crossmember today. Tomorrow i will hopefully be trimming it down to fit, and installing mounting brackets on the frame. If i get finished, and it is not snowing... I will try to get it out of the driveway and on to the road. The driveway is still about a foot of ice and snowpack..but i think if t here is a will, there is a way. I will also just need to strap the fuel tank down temporarily until i get my tank insulation and padding and twist cap for it..
The crossmember ended up being too long on both sides, so a little trimming and it will fit right in between the frame rails. I thought i remembered 40" inside rail to inside rail but i guess it is actually 38"... not too bad.lol
Looks like ill have a small transmission leak and a small power steering leak to fix after i get it driving, but thats what happens when using used parts i guess lol
Glass
02-24-2008, 05:43 PM
Its done, but its snowing, and will be snowing until tuesday lol.. and then it will take 5-7 days for the road to melt off enough for it not to be dangerous driving this thing..damnit.. Ohhwell atleast its finished
Glass
02-27-2008, 06:32 PM
HAHAHAHA... Im looking for another 454. This one had no noise, no sign, nothing. my friend was backing it out of his shop, and the engine froze up.
What the hell do 454's have against me.. thats 3 in a year.
thesoundmaster
02-27-2008, 06:34 PM
:scratch: :scratch: WTF!?!?!?!?!?!
Glass
02-27-2008, 06:49 PM
LOL, yeah WTF is right.. ohhwell... thats 3.. or 4.. 454 in a year... sweet.
First thing out of my friends mouth was "You could put a ford front clip on it and stuff a 428 into it"
But that would just take way too damn long.
So im looking for another 454 or some pistons and rods ( .030 over pistons)
If i can find the .030 over 454 pistons i can just throw them in the block i have in the garage and spend about another $400 on bearings and gaskets and cam and lifters unless i re-use this cam, but ill have to inspect it first to make sure the cam is ok. It looked good after tearing the top of the engine off, but yeah.
thesoundmaster
02-27-2008, 06:50 PM
what caused it to seize?
Glass
02-27-2008, 06:55 PM
Dont have a clue. Oil pressure was great (60 PSI) no noises, no knocking.. nothing.. it just stopped running and the crank will not turn. Ill know in awhile when and if i tear it down.
It might be salvagable, i wont know until i look into it... seeing as how it is froze up it is likely either a rod or main bearing.. but usually thoise make noise and you have a sign.
bronc_17113
02-27-2008, 07:11 PM
dammit dude that's a kick in the nuts:lookupkick:
Glass
02-27-2008, 07:16 PM
Yeah it sucks. ohhwell i guess lol.. atleast the hard part is done which was setting up the car and getting it drivable and all that shit.
thesoundmaster
02-27-2008, 07:17 PM
The teardown shouldn't be too hard for ya either. Let me know if you want help with anything John, I'm off the next 2 days so I'd be more than happy to drive up and help
Glass
02-27-2008, 07:37 PM
The teardown shouldn't be too hard for ya either. Let me know if you want help with anything John, I'm off the next 2 days so I'd be more than happy to drive up and help
Yeah the teardown should be easy. Getting it out of the car wont be too hard.. hardest part is going to be getting the headers out cause i have to life the front of the car about 18 inches up and disconnect the steering to drop it out but not too bad overall.
Actually the hard part is going to be putting it back in the garage.. that is going to suck harder than paris hilton her first time on film.
shawns 64 F100
02-27-2008, 08:23 PM
strange, im trying to reply but dont know what to say. lol
maybe I need to post something about a chevy in a mopar doesnt work on CDR? :D
bronc_17113
02-27-2008, 08:30 PM
you need me to ghead your way after work tommorrow morning to get it back in the garage for ya? can give ya a hand pullin at the same time if ya want
Glass
02-27-2008, 09:23 PM
Think were gonna push it in with a plow truck lol..
Yeah shawn, it worked... Im just not having much luck with 454's. The car drove and handled and 'steered' great... alot better than it would with a mopar in it lol damn junkyard engines.
shawns 64 F100
02-27-2008, 11:00 PM
its threads like this one that make me wish I knew how to photoshop :D
do you still have the HEMI? is it a bad engine?
Glass
02-27-2008, 11:12 PM
Shawn... photoshop is not a tool for amusment at my expense lol... ok it probally is, but i am glad you dont know how to use it.
The "hemi" is a 270 cubic inch 180 hp at the crank engine lol.. non cooled automatic trans... ehh... Ill hold out for another BBC..
If it gives me too much more hell its getting a ford engine.
shawns 64 F100
02-28-2008, 12:13 AM
why not a 440 or even a 383?
I was asking about the Hemi because its so cool, real old skool. ill give ya 5 dolla fo it, put it in my studebaker, will be perfect
I will learn how to photoshop one day, ohhhh yes, I will learn
in otherwords, be afraid BE VERY AFRAID!!!
Hypoid
02-28-2008, 11:29 PM
HAHAHAHA... Im looking for another 454. This one had no noise, no sign, nothing. my friend was backing it out of his shop, and the engine froze up.
What the hell do 454's have against me.. thats 3 in a year. I think ya skeeeered it! It looked at you and just KNEW you were going over the dreaded 5K revs. The poor engine decided a quiet, graceful death in the driveway was much better than exploding in front of everybody at the track.
Tear it down yet?
Glass
03-01-2008, 07:15 PM
Rod bearings 5,6,&7 seized up. When i took the oil pan off the oil pickup was laying in the bottom of the pan so i am guessing it worked its self out of the pump and there was no oil being picked up. I wasnt driving, so i do not know if there was oil pressure or not ( mounted the gauge where the driver could see it very easily.... ) but im guessing the pickup came off, engine ran without oil, 5,6,&7 are probably first rod bearings to get oil and get oil starved so they locked up.
Guess next time i will tac weld the pickup tube to the pump!! Hard way to learn the lesson of using about $1.00 in wire and gas to avoid this.
I need to find an inner / outter mic and mic the rods and another crank i have to see if another new set of bearings will work in the engine.
I would like to find a good set of .030 over pistons with rods on them to throw in the 2 bolt block i have. It didnt spin any bearings, all of the 'lock' tabs on the bearings were still there and not worn down. Either that or throw my backup crank back in the 4 bolt block with my new bearings with the old rods and pistons.. but I dont know if that will be ok or not since the bearings froze and didnt spin. There are no heat marks on the rods / caps and it locked up at about 600 RPM..
Heres a photo of where she died...
http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v204/222/60/610370366/n610370366_2405968_6991.jpg
im running thru a few options in my mind.
1st would be to put the backup crank, the original rods and pistons, back into the block with new rod and main bearings.
2nd is to find a used set of .030 over BBC pistons and rods and put them into the 2 bolt block i have with new rod and main bearings and the back up crank. (fresh block taken .030 over)
3rd is to find a good set of .010 over BBC pistons and rods and put them back into the 4 bolt block with the backup crank. (GM "crate" engine bore is already .010 over)
All 3 would be temp only until work picks up for my stepdad and he can start paying me... Then i could build a decent 454 or 468 for it.
Glass
03-01-2008, 07:17 PM
I think ya skeeeered it! It looked at you and just KNEW you were going over the dreaded 5K revs.
LOL.. i had and have the Rev Limiter set at 5,000. 600 RPM was alot better than 5k RPM because i still have a good 4 bolt block!!
Glass
03-01-2008, 07:34 PM
This is what i wanna build one day anyways hahaha... Only i want about a foot more air.
http://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gallery/tmp/173/173063.520.390
Hypoid
03-01-2008, 08:18 PM
I would consider new bearings before mixing up the rotating assembly...without a trip to the machine shop.
I'm kinda surprised thread-lock didn't hold the pickup.
No knocking? Crank not scuffed? You just may have dodged a bullet.
Glass
03-01-2008, 08:24 PM
There was no knocking, no screeching. the crank that was in it is trashed. Would probally take .020 to clean up 2 of the journals on the crank that was in it. If it was higher RPM im betting a rod would have jumped out of the block lol..
I have to find a mic and measure the 4 bolt block to see if the bearings and other crank i have will work in it or not gonna have to measure all of the rod big ends too to see if the bearings will work on them...
Does anyone know someone who has a skull and crossbones stencil for spray paint, i think im going to start keeping count now for the dodge and give it a skull and crossbones for every mechanical failure. If i get too bored ill print one out and transfer it to cardboard and go out and paint it tomorrow.
Im trying to get ahold of a guy in Bailey who has a complete 13.5:1 balanced rotating assembly for BBC He wanted $400 for it, but i think if i can get him down to $300-$350 i could afford it with selling a carb to my friend, then selling one more thing. Then id just have to measure the rods and mains again to figure out which bearings i would need for it..He thinks it s .030 or .060 over so either way it would go into the 2 bolt block since the 4 bolt block is only .010 over.
The next oil pickup screen will stay in... this is the first one i have ever had come out and it will be the last thanks to an invention called a welder. Replacing a pump and pickup tube as a whole unit should cost alot more than rebuilding an entiner engine lol.
shawns 64 F100
03-01-2008, 09:28 PM
I have a mic, but its way down here in foxfield
Glass
03-01-2008, 09:46 PM
Fox Field?? lol.. where in the hell is that.. j/k
Im going to go plastigauge the rods and mains and see how the clearances look with the backup crank and the new bearings. I am hoping everything looks good and i can just weld the S^%$ out of the oil pickup tube, finish up the assembly, and put it all back in the car with the new parts...If i had the welder at home the engine would have already been back in the car.
shawns 64 F100
03-01-2008, 09:53 PM
down her yonder by whar them thar foxes run wild. lolI cant wait to have that truck running, im going crazy lately just thinking about it
Glass
03-01-2008, 10:05 PM
Hopefully the craziness ends when you get the truck going. I thought mine was over and it pretty much began all over again hahaha.. Like i told Stormy "well atleast i know where everything goes now... as long as i put eveyrhting in labeled bags ill be good"
Id recommend putting in one of those nice switches which will kill the ignition if there is no oil pressure. Not one that will kill the fuel pump, but one that will kill the ignition. I think i might have to put one of those in the dodge after all of this that has a toggle on and togglle off so i can by pass it when starting the engine... after all this , this sucks.
Do you think youll have it ready by the first test and tune??
shawns 64 F100
03-01-2008, 10:14 PM
thats a good idea. I thought about that before. I might do it later on. run it off oil pressure like a GM does. I need to run my Neutral Safety lockout, I have a fancy Chrome alternator I bought from Chris ( CDR) the one in it is brand new too. I was thinking about ripping the frotn end back off tonight lol I need to pound my fenders out and then put back togehter, I was not planning on using them because I had big plans and was going to buy this fiberglass flip front from US body source. but the price has gone from 1299 to 1899, now it back down to 1799 I think so its gotta wait
Glass
03-01-2008, 10:58 PM
I have heard ALOT of bad about the fiberglass front clips... a mojor concensus from the people i have heard buying the fiberglass kits is they ahd to spend about as much in fiberglass repair / work/ re structuring as the clip cost!!!
Nothing like hamering away in the garage lol. Amazing how much louder it is in the garage than outside, but i guess living "down her yonder by whar them thar foxes run wild." Your HOA and neighbors would get mad if you were doin it outside lol.
Take some before and afters of the fenders... seeing the change a little hammering can do is pretty cool sometimes.
Glass
03-01-2008, 11:02 PM
I just went and finished assembling the bottom end, then took it all apart again to plastigauge it, then lubed everything, put it all back together and rotated it about 30 times. Took all the rods and mains apart, inspected all the bearings and no gouges or scratches or rubs in them and they were all coated in oil still.
I guess between visually inspecting it, testing it all by hand, and plastigauging it all it looks like it should work? I just need to find some silocone, get the welder over here for a quick spot weld or 2, then throw it back together and get it back in the car and see what she decides to do for me.
shawns 64 F100
03-01-2008, 11:26 PM
I have heard ALOT of bad about the fiberglass front clips... a mojor concensus from the people i have heard buying the fiberglass kits is they ahd to spend about as much in fiberglass repair / work/ re structuring as the clip cost!!!
Nothing like hamering away in the garage lol. Amazing how much louder it is in the garage than outside, but i guess living "down her yonder by whar them thar foxes run wild." Your HOA and neighbors would get mad if you were doin it outside lol.
Take some before and afters of the fenders... seeing the change a little hammering can do is pretty cool sometimes.
yeah, lightweight Race fiberglass isnt very strong, I could go that route and have all the fits with it. this is a Heavy duty Streetable front clip, gel coated exterior, etc etc. I will eventually buy it, just not in the next year, or 5 lol
the only problem I am concerned with is making the hinges work like they are suposed to according to the sellers website. it has to move foward then up to clean cowl.
bronc_17113
03-02-2008, 11:38 PM
Rod bearings 5,6,&7 seized up. When i took the oil pan off the oil pickup was laying in the bottom of the pan so i am guessing it worked its self out of the pump and there was no oil being picked up. I wasnt driving, so i do not know if there was oil pressure or not ( mounted the gauge where the driver could see it very easily.... ) but im guessing the pickup came off, engine ran without oil, 5,6,&7 are probably first rod bearings to get oil and get oil starved so they locked up.
Guess next time i will tac weld the pickup tube to the pump!! Hard way to learn the lesson of using about $1.00 in wire and gas to avoid this.
I need to find an inner / outter mic and mic the rods and another crank i have to see if another new set of bearings will work in the engine.
I would like to find a good set of .030 over pistons with rods on them to throw in the 2 bolt block i have. It didnt spin any bearings, all of the 'lock' tabs on the bearings were still there and not worn down. Either that or throw my backup crank back in the 4 bolt block with my new bearings with the old rods and pistons.. but I dont know if that will be ok or not since the bearings froze and didnt spin. There are no heat marks on the rods / caps and it locked up at about 600 RPM..
Heres a photo of where she died...
http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v204/222/60/610370366/n610370366_2405968_6991.jpg
im running thru a few options in my mind.
1st would be to put the backup crank, the original rods and pistons, back into the block with new rod and main bearings.
2nd is to find a used set of .030 over BBC pistons and rods and put them into the 2 bolt block i have with new rod and main bearings and the back up crank. (fresh block taken .030 over)
3rd is to find a good set of .010 over BBC pistons and rods and put them back into the 4 bolt block with the backup crank. (GM "crate" engine bore is already .010 over)
All 3 would be temp only until work picks up for my stepdad and he can start paying me... Then i could build a decent 454 or 468 for it.
sweet picture
Glass
03-03-2008, 11:37 AM
The picture is actually photo shopped lol... wanna see the original?:D
bronc_17113
03-03-2008, 01:38 PM
sure thing
Glass
03-03-2008, 03:59 PM
http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v190/222/60/610370366/n610370366_2405202_7139.jpg
bronc_17113
03-03-2008, 06:58 PM
ahhhhhhhh still a really cool pic
mattadams
03-03-2008, 07:15 PM
color or black and white, still looks cool with the old signs and stuff in the background :)
Glass
03-09-2008, 06:15 PM
Car is back together and runs good.. It ran like crap yesterday so i switched all of the MSD ignition stuff out for an old GM HEI i had laying in the agrage and it runs alot better now. Spins thru first, thru second, and then grabs when shifted into 3rd.
Only problem is that it has popped off the lower radiator hose where it clamps onto the water pump 2 times, once yesterday sitting in stormys parking lot, and once today driving it down the road. I am thinking it is a bad head gasket, which sucks ass because i put new ones on it when i put the engine back together. I am trying everything else that it could be first, removing t-stat trying different clamp, trying different rad. cap, etc...
If it is the head gaskets i guess i will just save up for some better ones since torquing these in 4 steps didnt get them to seal correctly..
Im comtemplating taking it out for another drive now that i have set the timing in it. I also took all of my nitrous wiring off of it, i dont think i wanna put nitrous to this poor motor, im surprised the bottom end is staying together as it is lol.
shawns 64 F100
03-09-2008, 06:26 PM
how much pressure is it building up in the cooling system? do you have a pressure guage to check that? also if you have the dough I think a block tester for combustion gasses in the cooling system is only about ten bucks. I have one here but, you, live, really, really, far, away...
Glass
03-10-2008, 01:00 AM
how much pressure is it building up in the cooling system? do you have a pressure guage to check that? also if you have the dough I think a block tester for combustion gasses in the cooling system is only about ten bucks. I have one here but, you, live, really, really, far, away...
I think im gonna borrow my friends pressure tester tomorrow when i get home from WORK.
First im going to pressurize it up to 13PSI and see if it leaks down, and then third im going to start the car with the gauge on and no pressure on it and see how high it gets. The funny thing Shawn is its not puking coolant out into my overflow, which it should do at anything above 13 PSI..
I ended up taking it for a drive after taking the t-stat out and it didnt biuld the massive pressure it did the last 2 times. I rode it hard (even got it pretty much sideways going into 2nd) and came home, left it running outside for about 5 more minutes and pulled it in the garage and the hoses felt like the hoses on my truck do after a good drive as far as pressure goes.
The test for combustion gasses in my coolant.. Are those just strips like a person would use to test nitrates, glycol % and freeze protection? I think if they are i should buy some and keep em in my tool cart, might get me a few head gaskets to do (original text edited out in fear of jokes and replies containing the wrongful use of the term head"
bronc_17113
03-10-2008, 07:04 AM
you work now?
shawns 64 F100
03-10-2008, 08:24 AM
I think im gonna borrow my friends pressure tester tomorrow when i get home from WORK.
First im going to pressurize it up to 13PSI and see if it leaks down, and then third im going to start the car with the gauge on and no pressure on it and see how high it gets. The funny thing Shawn is its not puking coolant out into my overflow, which it should do at anything above 13 PSI..
I ended up taking it for a drive after taking the t-stat out and it didnt biuld the massive pressure it did the last 2 times. I rode it hard (even got it pretty much sideways going into 2nd) and came home, left it running outside for about 5 more minutes and pulled it in the garage and the hoses felt like the hoses on my truck do after a good drive as far as pressure goes.
The test for combustion gasses in my coolant.. Are those just strips like a person would use to test nitrates, glycol % and freeze protection? I think if they are i should buy some and keep em in my tool cart, might get me a few head gaskets to do (original text edited out in fear of jokes and replies containing the wrongful use of the term head"
when did you get a job? rofl
the block tester is a chemical test, you buy the block testing kit. comes with a tube of liquid and another one that has rubber ends on it, when engine is warmed up you hold it over the radiators fill neck and the combustion gasses bubble into the bottom of the tester. really a cool easy way to diagnose. as the combustion gasses go into the tube it changes the yellow fluid to green. dont let coolant get in there so make sure its level is low enough that there is an air pocket between the tester and coolant. well worth the money, I have had mine for quite some time now and I havent bought but one extra bottle of fluid because I used most up in the first 5 years I had it
Glass
03-10-2008, 07:25 PM
Doesnt seem like a head gasket problem, the system held 15 PSI for over an hour then i took it out and thrashed on it for a long long time.
shawns 64 F100
03-10-2008, 08:16 PM
I wonder if you have a restriction at the bottom of the water pump or on the radiator side, or the hose doesnt fit quite just right?
Glass
03-10-2008, 08:57 PM
I wonder if you have a restriction at the bottom of the water pump or on the radiator side, or the hose doesnt fit quite just right?
I had to custom cut a hose to fit because of how wierd it is to have a 454 in a 55 dodge. Im thinking it just has a wierd angle that reguired torquing the FU$K out of the hose clamp..
After taking it to the test track today, i think i need to calm down the timing a little bit, and richen the carb up some. First time i stalled it up and went to launch it resulted in a big 4 foot fireball shootin out of the carb (timing) even tho its set at only 15 degrees initial timing... and then sometimes when on it hard it will pop and stutter and that could also be the timing, if it is throwing in too much advance, but i think it might be jetted a little lean right now too..
I really do think the thermostat was sticking shut or had an air bubble under it because sine taking it out it has been fine.
Hypoid
03-10-2008, 10:27 PM
I don't know much about them thar shivees, but would it be possible to have a reverse flow pump on the beast?
shawns 64 F100
03-10-2008, 10:28 PM
I don't know much about them thar shivees, but would it be possible to have a reverse flow pump on the beast?
crap good thinking mike, I dont know why I didnt think of that, lol
Glass
03-13-2008, 06:13 PM
It has the right water pump.
shawns 64 F100
03-14-2008, 05:39 PM
what about the length of the hose? is it popping off under load because of engine movement?
bsbrawner
03-14-2008, 05:53 PM
when i was a youngster my dad had had a 56 stepside that had a 396,13:1 that was so sweet but did not have a title,sold it to my uncle who removed it for his 57 belair it had a fiberglass front end It was a pain in the ass,but he never got it done,I sold it for him about 10 years ago for 3500.00 bucks wish i could have kept it for myself
shawns 64 F100
03-14-2008, 08:31 PM
when i was a youngster my dad had had a 56 stepside that had a 396,13:1 that was so sweet but did not have a title,sold it to my uncle who removed it for his 57 belair it had a fiberglass front end It was a pain in the ass,but he never got it done,I sold it for him about 10 years ago for 3500.00 bucks wish i could have kept it for myself
man I can remember alot of cars my step dad had growing up, could talk about them all night long, I remember a 64 GTO 389 car was original tri power but only had a single four, was one ass ripping car for sure, back then my lil bro and I would get so sick in the back seat from all the obnoxious fumes and the sound from mufflers right under the seat. but we loved that car. then he had a 55 chevy pickup before that 327 3 speed, tire smoking pile of junk that ran like a raped ape. a pink 68 Roadrunner that was built up so strong he could just lay leather to the floor with no brakes and light em up so much you couldnt see out of the back window.
I almost took the 55 chevy but it needed soo much work, and I wanted to drive. so we sold it to his boss who restored it to a cherry original pickup who in turn traded it for AFRICAN MOTORHOME :mad:
Glass
03-14-2008, 10:50 PM
wasnt the length of the hose lol, im thinking it was either the twist the bottom hose had to it or a stuck thermostat, its doing better now... Good enough that i could be working on it if i wasnt damn working all the damn time..lol
shawns 64 F100
03-14-2008, 11:36 PM
you have a Yob now? lol. I was out working until about 10:00 PM took a break for dinner, but got the trailor cleaned up, changed oil and iflter on the 06, and in morning I put new tail lamps on the trailor and head for strasburg. hopefully the 50 will be home tomorrow
Glass
03-15-2008, 06:11 PM
Nice, the dodge is getting better with every little drive, i still think its either getting too much fuel, or too little, its hard to tell. It will stutter a little and not develope the power at full throttle , but it will at 9/10yh throttle.. Hard to tell if its getting too much, or not enough.
I think i got a trailer today too... Im going to be pulling / installing an engine for a guy in return for an 18' trailer. Its in decent shape, needs tires, fenders, and probally a little wiring to it.. But hell, cheap trailer and has electric brakes on all 4 and looks good....
shawns 64 F100
03-15-2008, 09:16 PM
cool deal on the trailor, I spent my day hauling home the studebaker, talk about waggin the dogs tail rofl, I almost thought it was going to be like the cube van behind the superduty
Have you checked your plugs to see if they are burning clean, brown white or black?
Glass
03-15-2008, 09:18 PM
plugs are tan lol.. but there is no place for me to pull over and check them right after i get on it hard, i have to drive it home which will either clean them up or turn them tan again before i can pull them out lol...
Cool thing you got the studebaker home, tht is a cool ass truck..!
shawns 64 F100
03-15-2008, 09:28 PM
you should still have some black spots on them if its really rich, white ones if its lean, I have been wanting to buy a plug reader since I went to PSCA world finals and learned a few things about reading plugs with N20. some amazing things them guys have figured out, one was the ability to see small white specs on the plug which are the piston metling, contrary to popular belief the piston will actually start to melt (detonation) before the electrode when you run too much N20 and timing, and can not see with a nude eyeball. :eek:
Glass
03-15-2008, 09:31 PM
you should still have some black spots on them if its really rich, white ones if its lean, I have been wanting to buy a plug reader since I went to PSCA world finals and learned a few things about reading plugs with N20. some amazing things them guys have figured out, one was the ability to see small white specs on the plug which are the piston metling, contrary to popular belief the piston will actually start to melt (detonation) before the electrode when you run too much N20 and timing, and can not see with a nude eyeball. :eek:
Yeah, nitrous can reek havoc on pistons and plugs lol, im just lucky i have never had a single bad sign on a plug at all with my truck, other than they run pure white in the middle, neer had a problem with the straps or electrodes lol.. Its funny cause after running nitrous the plugs will actually look normal (in the truck) and then when ran with no nitrous they are extreme white burning hahahaha
shawns 64 F100
03-15-2008, 09:34 PM
lol you must really have it starving for fuel then? the cuda runs so rich without it, it loads up all the time. got a secondary pump for the bottle?
Glass
03-15-2008, 09:39 PM
No secondary pump for the bottle, just think i have it jetted for best performance lol, power is on the edge of detonation / leaning out.. and with 5880 pounds i need all the edge i can get
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