Big O Tires

[Warrlord]

SUCK! Today was the first time I ever had to drive on slick roads with these tires. I got 'em as daily driver tires in an effort to save the the tread on my Iroks. I actually had to use 4wd today & all those 4 tires did was spin & spin, I almost considered using my winch on a city street. There was a parking meter I coulda hooked up to. :D The tires are like new. Plus, I pinched a hole in the (weak-ass) sidewall when I went wheeling with Starkman & Bloodbane & they didn't grip for shit. Other than providing a nicer ride on the street(they're radials), over the Iroks.............they're worthless. If anyone is thinking about them for new tires, I will trash talk these Big O tires. Hell, I had way better slick road performance with ProComp X-Terrains & those were a terrible all around tire. I suppose I better go outside & put the Iroks back on. Below is a (not so good) pic of the slicks.

Okay.........rant off, I'm happy now :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/Warrlord/bigo.jpg

[thesoundmaster]

I still think the best A/T tire is a BFG All Terrain. Off road they're marginal at best for the type wheeling we do, on the road they're great. I haven't had a complaint with them in the snow. Kinda bummed to hear bout the disappointment Larry, if I remember you were excited to get em on the truck.

[rwmorrisonjr]

That's why I'm going to upgrade to MT KOs when I have the cash again.

Big O sucks. I went in there looking for better tires for the Commander and their selection sucked, and they were way overpriced. Went to Discount and found what I wanted for less.

[shawns 64 F100]

I coulda told you that! lol, I used to notice how fast the Big O mud and snow with the puzzle shaped Tread pattern, cant remember the tard actual name, would be choppy around 5,000 miles already on customers rides. them tars wont last 20k I have BFG rugged trail T/A on my 06, they came from factory, and I really like them for a road worthy tar. on my 78 I bought some off brand thats the BFG all Terrain knock off, 31-10.50 15 if I remember right, they are awesome for only 400 bucks for another road worthy tar

[Warrlord]

Yup, the BFG A/T's are a great tire. Thicker than normal sidewall, good treadwear, good traction.

I got these Big o's already mounted on black rockcrawlers in 35x12.50 flavor for a great price, they only had a tad over 800 miles on 'em. So I thought I'd keep 'em on for street useage. But the Irok's traction on slick stuff (not to mention trail use), is fantastic.

Now I know some folks will think that a mud terrain tire sucks on the slick roads but lemme tell ya...........the TRXUS M/T is by far, the best tire I've ever used on slick stuff (and I've been through all kinds of tires). I went from BFG A/T's to those & while I was greatly impressed by the BFG's, I was absolutely astounded at how the TRXUS's performed.......even on ice.......yup, ice. It's like a Blizzak in a mud terrain tread design. If Swamper made those with a 4 ply or more sidewall, I'd run those on my truck for trail use. Problem is, one TRXUS in the size I'd run costs $12.00 less than the set of four tires, with wheels, mounted & balanced, that I just bought.





http://www.intercotire.com/piclib/579.jpg

[bronc_17113]

so when we gonna see the tires in the for sale thread lol

[thesoundmaster]

I've been debating the TRXUS M/T's for my next set on either truck. Also been eying the Iroks once I lift the Bronco

[Warrlord]

I've been debating the TRXUS M/T's for my next set on either truck. Also been eying the Iroks once I lift the Bronco

Personally, I wouldn't use the trxus's for serious trail usage (I did get over 36k miles out of the last set on the Bronco, not bad for a Swamper tire), the sidewall is too thin for my tastes.........only a 2 ply. You can get 'em









in a 3ply starting in the 37x12.50-16 but they're $287.99 each http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/Warrlord/Misc/jawdrop.gif
The 36" Irok's have a 4 ply sidewall

[Warrlord]

How 'bout posting up the tires you've used over the years & your opinion of them. I'll list mine but keep in mind that it'll be what I experienced with them. Other may have had different results, good or bad, with the same tires I had.

Tires on the Bronco.......

Goodyear Wrangler RTS, 31x10.50R-15 (never off roaded these tires)
The good............decent in snow & rain, great treadlife.
The bad.............out-of-round (vibrations), poor performance on packed snow & ice.

BFG A/T KO's 32x11.50R-15
The good...........great performance on snow, packed snow, ice, rocks, decomposed granite. Has great treadlife. Not too noisy. 3 ply sidewall. Priced decent.
The bad.............seemed to hydroplane easy, poor performance in mud.

Interco TrXus M/T's 31x10.50R-15
The good...........fantastic performance on snow, packed, ice, rain, rocks, decomposed granite. Treadlife is good. Priced decent.
The bad.............noisy, 2 ply sidewall.

Cooper ATR 31x10.50R-15 (never off roaded these tires)
The good...........decent performance on snow, packed snow, ice. Great performance in rain. Great treadlife. Priced decent.
The bad.............probably won't be worth a crap off road.



Tires on the Ranger........(all these tires have been used off road)

BFG A/T KO's 33x12.50R-15
See BFG above

BFG M/T KM's 33x12.50R-15
The good..........great performance on powdered snow, rocks, decomposed granite, mud. Good treadlife. 3 ply sidewall.
The bad............poor performance on packed snow, ice, rain.

ProComp X-Terrain's 35x12.50R-15
The good.........tough looking tire, nice ride on dry pavement. 3 ply sidewall
The bad...........Poor performance on snow, packed snow, ice, rocks, decomposed granite, mud, rain. Poor treadlife.

Interco Super Swamper TSL Bias Ply 38x12.50-15
The good.........Fantastic performance on rocks, decomposed granite, mud, rain. Decent performance on snow, packed snow, ice, 4 ply sidewall.
The bad..........Poor treadlife, typical bias ply tire ride, out of round causing vibration.

Interco IROK's 37x12.50R-15
The good........Nice radial tire ride. Good performance on snow, packed snow, ice, rocks, decomposed granite, mud, rain. Decent treadlife.
The bad.........Expensive. 2 ply sidewall.

Interco IROK's 36x13.50-15
The good........Great performance on rocks, decomposed granite, mud, rain. Good performance on snow, packed snow, ice, rain. 4 ply sidewall.
The bad.........Typical bias ply tire ride,, although not near as bad as the TSL's. Poor treadlife.

I've ran a bunch of other tires on other vehicles but that way back when.

[shawns 64 F100]

Only Truck Tar ive ever run thats really impressed me was a set of BFG All Terrains on my 85,96 F 250s I put about 60 k on them and dont remember rotating them more than twice, maybe three times lol . Also the two sets I posted earlier I am happy with, but I doubt they will last as long as the BFGs did
Most of my Tars have been Performance for street/strip
I need to get a set for my 64

[thesoundmaster]

YES second sig quote I've made..

I've used BFG's on the Bronco since I bought it. It had them on when I got it and hasn't had anything since. The Ranger has those Cooper Wildcats on it, and while they're marginal at best offroad, they suck everywhere else.

[Digger]

BFG MT KM's:
Good: Quiet when new or if tread is still worn even, excellent life span (60,000+ miles), good ride for a mud tire, decent sidewall strength, forms to rocks well when aired down, grips Moab slick rock like nobody's business, probably best overall street/trail tire made


Bad: Sucks in the snow or other wet conditions w/o siping. In the snow, tends to dig down instead of move forward. Requires more cautious driving style in snow.


Cooper Discovery ST-C's
Good: Excellent cross between mud tire and all terrain. Comes in E-load range for diesel trucks. Very good in rain and snow, still provides good off-road performance. Long wearing like BFG's.

Bad: Quiet for an AT/MT, but not as quiet as normal weenie street tires. As a bonus tire noise cannot be heard over 7.3 powerstroke.

[mattadams]

Oh man I can't even think of all the tires I've had on all my vehicles, LOL. I had at least 5 or 6 sets of tires on the truck, and 3 or 4 on my old explorer. I'll have to compile a list...

[MMPC]

Well, I'll have to be the sole voice of support for Big-O - at least the Big-O of 4-5 years ago. I had always found their tires to be decent and very reasonably priced; also their customer service used to be excellent no matter what shop you went to. I had their "Big Foot XTs" (yeah, lame name) on my Explorer and did all sorts of wheeling with 'em - never had a problem. And they used to have one of the best warranties in the business that you didn't have to pay extra for. I guess they've gone down hill since then...?

[shawns 64 F100]

bigfoot thats the name of the tars that wear out super fast!! I couldnt remember the name, only the puzzle tread pattern.

MMPC your right about the customer service, its always good atleast all the stores I dealt with, but I wouldnt ever put them tars on my rides. I hope they last longer for you than the ones our customers had. unless they were rotated constantly they would wear out like no tomorrow and the choppy tread on them is not a fun ride when it starts to cup lol

[MMPC]

I haven't run any Big-O's in almost 5 years so I don't know how they are now. But those XTs used to be good. You're right, however, about being meticulous in the rotating.

[RayLCC]

The Explorer came with a set of the typical soccer-mom, goodyear car tires.
They did well in the snow and offered a fair ride on the road. This last summer I was at Williams Fork Res. and rain made some of the dirt paths a little muddy. From the way the tires slipped and spun around, I could tell that if I ran into any REAL mud I'd be in trouble.

I'm now running a set of Mickey Thompson MTX's. 35x12.50 15
The difference is day and night! They offer nice road handling and are fairly quiet and roll over ice and snow like they're running with chains!
They get excellent traction! I can make the tires spin on the ice and snow, but I have to be screwing around to do so. Hitting the throttle hard or things like that. Driving normally, I have yet to have a problem with take-off or stopping on the snow or ice. The tires seem to get traction on nearly any surface without issue. On wet roads its the same story.
Lots of grip, excellent water shedding and no noticable problems, even in deeper puddles.
I can't speak to their off-road capabilities or tread life, since they are still pretty new, but for on road they are by far the best tire I've used for bad weather conditions.
My tire experience has been limited to car tires, so I'm no expert, but I've had crappy sets of car tires before (BFG and Goodyear hi-perf car tires are PIGS in the snow and ice) So I can say I've had experience with bad tires.I'll definitely buy another set of the Mickey's when these wear out.

[Starkman]

bigfoot thats the name of the tars that wear out super fast!! I couldnt remember the name, only the puzzle tread pattern.

MMPC your right about the customer service, its always good atleast all the stores I dealt with, but I wouldnt ever put them tars on my rides. I hope they last longer for you than the ones our customers had. unless they were rotated constantly they would wear out like no tomorrow and the choppy tread on them is not a fun ride when it starts to cup lol

The first Bronco2 I bought new had Uniroyals stock and they looked just like those Bigfoots. The Uniroyals where junk, dry roted in a year. I replaced them with BFG Muds and thought I was the shit!

I guess I've been lucky. I've never been disapointed with a tire I bought. I have had very good luck with BFGs and I had a set of Goodyear MTs (old style like the military Hummers have) and used them on my prerunner Ranger for many miles of highspeed running and hit some huge rocks with no issues.

I see that sidewall toughness is a must for TTB rigs offroad. It may not be as much of an issue on others apps.

[MMPC]

...but I wouldnt ever put them tars on my rides.
Tars...? Seriously...? Are we in Colorado or backwoods Alabama? :p

[RayLCC]

I think I would rather have
"Tars on mah rig ana full tanko gahss" than to have
"A jolly good set of tyres under the old bonnet and a full tub of Petrol"

But that's just me. I tend to like slim-jims and beer rather than tea an cucumber sandwiches. :)

[mattadams]

LOL, crazy ol Ray...
Anyways, heres a rundown of some of hte tires I've owned. Some I only owned for short enough times to make it not really memorable.

BFG All Terrains or AT/KO's - every time I've run All Terrains, I'm impressed with them. They are great on the road, seem to last a long time, and do well in snowy/icy/muddy conditions as well. They also are quite durable and aside from when my tires got slashed, never had a problem with punctures, incidental damage,e tc.

Mickey Thompson Baja Tires (dont remember the exact name) - There were the "all-terrain" version of their tire, with side-biters on the side for extra traction. While I never had any problems with the tires, was never terribly impressed with them either. The "side biters" ripped off the sides when I'd actually air down enough to actually use them, and since the only real traction was side-to-side, not front to back, it was tough to get forward traction in certain situations.

BFG Mud Terrains - They were ok. Didn't last as long as I'd like, and always seemed to wear unevenly no matter how many rotations I'd do.

Goodyear tires - in general they are ok. The ones I have on the explorer now I'd have to go look upt eh model number of them, but they suck. They sway side to side a lot more then they should and as soon as I got them on noticed that the ride became louder and less comfortable. They are wearing ok, from what I can tell though. Plus the ones I got were among the cheapest they make.

[PaleBlue90]

BFG A/T's (31's)-Good tire, did well in snow,packed snow,ice,rocks,gravel,rain and pretty well in the mud. in snow and mud i had them packed and were still biteing. good wear if at the right air pressure (not too much or too little), ive got 65 to 75K on a set.

Firestone Destination M/T's(31's)-good on snow,mud,sand,gravel,rain and rocks. they were on on packed snow and ice. they wore funny but were fixed easyly by just rotateing them and were a bit noisey. got 77K out of them.

Definity Dakota M/T's(30's)-good on snow,rain,mud,gravel and rocks. on packed snow and ice there ok, but are like alot of M/T's and dont do really well.there a tad noisey and make my ranger viberate a bit at 65/75 MPH

Goodyear Wrangler MT's(31's)-there on my project ranger and just driveing it up and down the street and into the driveway they seem a bit noisey,they suck on ice/packed snow. seem good in mud,gravel,rocks snow. they seem ok in rain but did hydroplane a little under hard breaking.
:popcorn:

[shawns 64 F100]

Tars...? Seriously...? Are we in Colorado or backwoods Alabama? :p
yarp tars on mah rig look mo betta dan on yars :D

[latino350]

i am driving every day to winter park from denver wish tires you guy tink its better for snow and sharp turns its like 100% chance to be snow in the road every morning and need tires ASAP the ones i have are bold so what you think

[shawns 64 F100]

i am driving every day to winter park from denver wish tires you guy tink its better for snow and sharp turns its like 100% chance to be snow in the road every morning and need tires ASAP the ones i have are bold so what you think
GET BFG all Terrains, make sure you rotate them every 5,000 miles. and I like a thin tire "pizza cutter" for snow packed roads best.

[Glass]

Latino, in my opinion, the best tire for you to go with, iff you are driving over berthoud pass 2 times a day, every day would be the cooper discoverer M&S. They work great either studded or non studded. I have a set for my truck, and i am on the 3rd winter with them. Pretty much all of my friends, and the people i know up here run those tires during the winter.

Ofcourse, knowing how to drive over the pass helps alot more than any set of tires out there, and if you have been making that commute for this long, you probabally know how to drive on the pass, and how not to drive.

But yeah, id highly recommend the cooper discoverer M&S tire to you if you have a truck.. If you have a car they have a different name for the tires, they call them the cooper weathermaster ST2.

238/85/16's work great up here on most ford trucks mid 80's and older, but as always, check the "suggested" tire size for your truck.

[Hunter]

I am a Ground Hawg kind guy. I have had 44's, 40's and 38's in radial.

The Good: They work awesome in the mud and sand. Wear very well ( the 40's I have are 11 years old). I usually get 40k. Not evey one runs them. The radials I have work awesome on the icy roads we have had this winter. They do not dig holes like comparable tires. Work well on the rocks.

The Bad: Expensive. Hard to get. The bias ply's do not work so well on the ice and ride worse.

Bridgestone M/T's. Had a couple sets of 33's on my Land Cruiser.

The good: When new works awesome in deep snow. Ride is good. Durable. Good all around tire that works well in the mud.

The bad: Do not work so well after 1/2 worn. Changed tread design.

Michelin L/T A/T. Hvave a set on my Expedition.

The Good: great road tire. Very good on the snow and ice. Good ride. Handle well. Awesome traction. Good tread life.

The Bad: Price? Maybe.

Latino I wold recomend the Michelins for your purpose.

This is my opinion I may be wrong:)

[RayLCC]

Latino, I really like my Mickey Thompsons, but I've only had the one set on this vehicle. I'd recommend them, but you might want to track down a more informed reference than me about the tires.
I've been very happy with them, though.

[shawns 64 F100]

I am a Ground Hawg kind guy. I have had 44's, 40's and 38's in radial.

The Good: They work awesome in the mud and sand. Wear very well ( the 40's I have are 11 years old). I usually get 40k. Not evey one runs them. The radials I have work awesome on the icy roads we have had this winter. They do not dig holes like comparable tires. Work well on the rocks.

The Bad: Expensive. Hard to get. The bias ply's do not work so well on the ice and ride worse.

Bridgestone M/T's. Had a couple sets of 33's on my Land Cruiser.

The good: When new works awesome in deep snow. Ride is good. Durable. Good all around tire that works well in the mud.

The bad: Do not work so well after 1/2 worn. Changed tread design.

Michelin L/T A/T. Hvave a set on my Expedition.

The Good: great road tire. Very good on the snow and ice. Good ride. Handle well. Awesome traction. Good tread life.

The Bad: Price? Maybe.

Latino I wold recomend the Michelins for your purpose.

This is my opinion I may be wrong:)

Michelins are a great road Tar as well. We replaced alot of farstones on the exploder Recall with michelins when the customer wanted to upgrade. they would always balance out with less than half an ounce per wheel. I never had another road worthy tar that balanced so well. this means precision manufacturing at its finest from the rubber plants. ( worked at one of them places for 3 months, worst job I ever had, lol )

[latino350]

well if i make it today with my bald tires and no 4x4 i tink i will make it with any tires but i dont taking chances, tomorrow i gona buy tires and fix my 4x4

[Warrlord]

Michelins are a great road Tar as well. We replaced alot of farstones on the exploder Recall with michelins when the customer wanted to upgrade. they would always balance out with less than half an ounce per wheel. I never had another road worthy tar that balanced so well. this means precision manufacturing at its finest from the rubber plants. ( worked at one of them places for 3 months, worst job I ever had, lol )

Gotta love those Michelins. When I worked at the Caddy dealer, we'd sell Firestones, Goodyears, Michelins, & Vogues. Like you said Shawn, the Michelins would balance out with a half ounce or less or no weights at all. Every time we got a vibration complaint, they were not Michelin tires, we'd have to check & road force the Firestones, Goodyears, Vogues. It always amazed me at how out-of-round those tires were. The Michelins must have been perfectly round to begin with since there was never a complaint about 'em. Once in a while, some customers would come back & pony up the difference in $$ to upgrade to Michelins. Hell, if I had a nice car as a daily driver, I'd most likely run Michelins on it.

Oh, and if anyone has never heard of Vogue tires, here's what they look like (http://superbuytires.com/tires/model/Vogue/CustomBuilt/). They have a wide band whitewall with a skinny yellowwall on 'em & they're worse riding than the Goodyears & Firestones on Cadillacs.