supercharger ?

[John Allen]

I am thinking of installing a supercharger on my '07 F150 5.4. Anyone here done it yet and if so, any comments?

[Rangermuse]

That would be sick, I say do it.

[RevT]

Trucks did an episode a while back on Supercharging an F150.
http://www.powerblocktv.com/sites/trucks/episodes/index.php?ep_num=TK2006-18&ep_sea=0602

They used this stinger kit from Banks, but I just looked and couldnt find it on their web page. Looked pretty damn easy. I've emailed banks before and they never responded though.

-Stinger kit: cold air intake, stainless exhaust, Ottomind reprogrammer. Powerpack kit: adds torque tube manifolds. Big Hoss bundle: adds an intercooled supercharger, heat exchanger, injectors, sparkplugs, belt, brackets, and hardware.

www.bankspower.com (http://www.powerblocktv.com/sites/redirects/redirect_bankspower.html)

RevT

[shawns 64 F100]

I have wanted to do this to my 06 F150 also. my preference would be a kenne belle roots style. thats all these trucks need to have the perfect performance upgrade. the down side is a $ 5500 + upgrade is a lot of dough. not to mention youll have to replace entire exhaust system as well as intake. as well as cams made to work for the blower, as well as a power programmer, otherwise your just blowing air lol
Hell I bet it gets well over 10k before everything is finished. and I am just thinking about parts costs alone. I would hate to see what a guy would pay for the labor as well

[Glass]

1 PSI of boost = 7% additional horsepower.

So, with that, 7 PSI of boost would be 49% more horsepower.

Not a bad investment or idea.

Hope you dont like having a warranty on your truck either.

[RayLCC]

If you look at the packages, you can get at least that much of a power gain and gain about 25 MPG at a fraction of the cost by going with a combo of electric supercharger and one of those Tornado thingies. :)

Blowers rock. I say do it.

[schmidlkofer]

tornado does nothing....and the electricsuperchargers are junk. friend had one. and the tornados are proven not to work.

[mattadams]

LOL I remember, back when I was actually into Ford Truck World and their magazine at the time, pretty muche veryone hated Tornados until Tornado wanted to run ads in the magazine with an article about how well they work... man were they digging to find members who had bought them and actually noticed a positive difference :).

[250stroker]

I say go with a turbo. You will make more power with less boost. And you can dial the boost in without any major changes or tools.

[shawns 64 F100]

something about putting regurgitated fuel into my engine I just dont like, I wouldnt eat food I already ate, so why do that to my engine? not only that you gotta fugg with intercooler bullshit and worry about lag, esp on dry hot days, oh and a blower gives you instant snappy throttle responce, much better than having to wait for the power

[250stroker]

something about putting regurgitated fuel into my engine I just dont like, I wouldnt eat food I already ate, so why do that to my engine? not only that you gotta fugg with intercooler bullshit and worry about lag, esp on dry hot days, oh and a blower gives you instant snappy throttle responce, much better than having to wait for the power
Huh? Regurgitated fuel??? Turbo lag, what's that?? That went away years ago when turbo technology advanced to instant boost. I can smoke the 35's on my truck off the line, 20 psi boost in less than 2 seconds then climbs to 30 in another 2 seconds, before shifting into 2nd gear. Turbo lag is a thing of the past. Turbos don't cause parasitic loss of the engines horsepower. If you want to make anything over 7 psi with a blower you will need an intercooler on a stock to mild engine as well.:twocents:

[shawns 64 F100]

ok Regurgitated fuel means that crap you already pumped through your engine. would you eat recycled food? Dont tell me you run a turbo thats not running off your exhaust pressure? how long does it take before you get any boost to develope power to be noticeable? even with trap doors holind pressure, you still have to wait. intercoolers, custom pipes to maintain boost at idle? how much money you want to spend and how much weight you like to add? Smoking tires is cool, but what about a quick Reaction time? 2 seconds = the race is over. Intercooler for 7 psi on a blower? Says who?

[250stroker]

You don't put the exhaust back into the engine, it's just used to turn a turbine. How is that regurgitating? Exhaust is free energy. The engine doesn't have to work harder to turn a turbo. It's just something that goes out the tailpipe getting wasted. A supercharger uses the engine horsepower to turn it. The faster you spin it, the more power it takes from the engine. Therefore the efficiency level of the boost goes down. It can take as much as 15-20% of the engines energy to turn a supercharger. There are turbos that will make boost at idle, so like I said, lag time is a thing of the past. 2 seconds is for my stock turbo on a diesel, and actually if I power brake it I can get 15 psi of boost off the line, but I'm not into racing my truck. That's not what it's for. I've built turbo race engines and blown race engines, and trust me, the turbo engines make more power at the same boost than any supercharger. I had an F150 with the Lightning engine in it. Bullet proofed the bottom end, ported and polished the heads, bigger cams etc, etc. 15psi boost with the supercharger. Made 512hp. Then I changed over to a turbo setup. At 12psi boost made 545hp, and torque curve was amazing. So thats less boost more power. Not saying superchargers are not good. They are great, but you can turbocharge for less money and make more power.
I'm still trying to figure out that regurgitate statement....:popcorn:
And yes, if you want the engine to live for any length of time, you need to intercool anything above 7-8 psi. Or at least water inject. Something to cool the air charge.
Check with the drag racing scene. You'll see that more and more are turning to turbos rather than supercharging. It is the power adder of the future.

[shawns 64 F100]

ok where does the air come from?

[250stroker]

I think you may be confused as to how a turbocharge works. There are two parts to a turbo. The turbine side or exhaust side and the compressor side or intake side. The exhaust side has a turbine which is turned by the exhaust. The exhaust goes in one side, spins the turbine and exits out another side and goes through the exhaust pipes, muffler etc. and goes out to atmosphere. The turbine is connected by a shaft to the other side to a compressor wheel. This wheel pulls in fresh air through an air filter, compresses it(hence the name compressor) and pumps it out into the engine. There is no recycling involved. Like I said. It uses wasted energy to make free horsepower. The only thing that connects the exhaust and intake air is shaft that has the compressor wheel on one side and a turbine wheel on the other side. They do not mix together in any way shape or form.

[shawns 64 F100]

ok :thumbsup: blower or nower :D I see turbo cars that run faster than anything on the track, but they have the worst reaction times ever, with no throttle responce and taking forever to get boost youll see .5 - 1 full second before launch, the worlds fastest turd blow deezul took 9 seconds on the green to go I could have won that in a bracket with my 18 second N/A pickup. so why so slow if there is instant boost?

[250stroker]

Just remember, it's 90% driver, 10% car. Just cause you have a fast car, doesn't mean you know how to drive it. The fastest 10.5 outlaw car runs twin turbos.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=n7l0gamCNOs

And check out the other vids of Tim Lynch.

[Glass]

And yes, if you want the engine to live for any length of time, you need to intercool anything above 7-8 psi. Or at least water inject. Something to cool the air charge.
Check with the drag racing scene. You'll see that more and more are turning
yeah shawn, geeeeze... Out of the 9 or 10 blower cars we have had, with 7-15 of boost, never had an intercooler. Methanol injection would be the way to go for me, instead of intercooler.

nitrous also works nice to cool the charge with a supercharger. A 50 shot can seem like a 200 shot because of how much it cools the intake temps when used on top of a blower.

Lets invent a beer turbo. Using impellers, turbines, and tubing, we can speed up our beer intake with the used beer we piss out. Sweet.


Ohh, and i have not seen more turbo cars than supercharger cars (race, not off the dealer floor). What i have noticed is people going away from the roots style blowers to a vortec or paxton style.

Id rather be blown.:thumbsup:

[shawns 64 F100]

Just remember, it's 90% driver, 10% car. Just cause you have a fast car, doesn't mean you know how to drive it. The fastest 10.5 outlaw car runs twin turbos.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=n7l0gamCNOs

And check out the other vids of Tim Lynch.
yup and they have to race each other because a more consistent car can win. the fella with the turbo better prey he has an opponent that wont roll into the lights first, he only gets ten seconds to get spooled up and a green light, not much time at the line when everything is going on.

[Nate's91]

ok Regurgitated fuel means that crap you already pumped through your engine.

I know it's already been cleared up, but I had to ask if you think this would work (NBL!! :))
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2448/deisc6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)