I am not sure....

[Glass]

I am not sure if this is good enough for a 10.5:1 454...hehehe, I think i might go with this cam for the dodge now that i sold the bloweer.... Heres what DD2K showed for me...

Gasoline only:
Torque = 414@2000 RPM, and peaks @ 547@4500 RPM. Peak HP = 578@6500 RPM.

With 150 shot N2O:
Peak Torque = 833 ft-lbs@1500 RPM. Peak HP = 736@6500 RPM.

With 200 shot N2O:
Peak Torque = 1011 ft-lbs@1500 RPM. Peak HP = 789@6500 RPM

[shawns 64 F100]

damn John. that must have a pretty big lift on that cam. prob around 310 duration and .700 lift?

[Glass]

.249/.259 duration, and .615 / .620 lift..

Not a huge cam, but good enough.

http://holley.com/40224.asp

[shawns 64 F100]

thats smaller than the cam ill run in my 429. which is a 304/304 .615 lift, I believe its about 284 @ .050 but i need to check again, should be about 550-600 hp 11.5 pistons which prob end up around 9-1 up here lol.
oh wait your running N20 I keep forgetting that in the factor. :thumbsup: I wonder how much juice would get my 429 to 1000 before exploding...
:popcorn:

[Glass]

your 11.5 to my 10.5 is the difference between my pulling up to any gas station, and getting fuel, and running with no detonation, and you haveing to run high octane race fuel..lol

[Warrlord]

your 11.5 to my 10.5 is the difference between my pulling up to any gas station, and getting fuel, and running with no detonation, and you haveing to run high octane race fuel..lol

Upjet your carb & use a bigger power valve & run E85 (http://www.agriculture.state.ia.us/e85q&a.html). My buddy at work did that on both of his cars & couldn't be happier with the results. The 350 in his 69 Camaro runs 11.5:1 comp (it's his daily driver) & at PMI, he turns consistant 12.6's throught the mufflers & running drag radials. His 66 Nova is a supercharged 366 ci engine (also a daily driver) & turns consistant 11.50's throught the mufflers & drag radials as well. His best time was 11.51 & they told him he might wanna put a cage in it if he wants to run there again since he's 0.01 second away from that rule.

He did that to combat the pinging he experienced on both cars. It gets less mpg but he's been keeping track of fuel expenses & it's evened out as if he ran gasoline since E85 is under 2 bux a gallon. This allowed him to advance the timing even more than he did before but yet, experience no pinging in the process while gaining 0.2 sec on each car compared to running gasoline. Niether car runs NO2 though. You might need more than 105 octane.

One good thing (this is the gearhead in me), the exhaust smells like you're at the track watching alcohol cars run.

Oh, after lots of trial & error, he went up 4 steps in jet size & 3 in the power valves, he found that to be optimum for his setup. Also, he has performance metering blocks (http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10001_10002_752040_-1_11153) for further fine tuning.

I'm just mentioning this to you as an alternative to using $5.00 - $6.00 a gallon race fuel since it really worked.

[shawns 64 F100]

I hope your buddy did make sure his fuel system is compatable as well, its not just changine carbs, the entire fuel system has to be E85 compatable, if he has steel lines they will corrode as well as the tank itself, I believe the lines can be a non ferrous material (aluminum) or plastic as well as the fuel cell

[Warrlord]

Oh yeah, he did it up right. He's no dummy..............two very streetable, daily drivers that can turn 12's & 11's............he knows what he's doing. There's quite a few built big blocks at the track that can't even get in the 12's.

[shawns 64 F100]

yup alot of big block cars that cant actually, lol ,I just hope he dont ruin the fuel system by not changing the steel lines out and the tank. if hes in the 11s im sure he has a fuel Cell. and prob alum lines. I know one of the div 5 sportsman racers whi is 06 season champion runs Ethanol and is loving it very much. I cant complain in my 06 work truck either @ 1.99 a gallon right now :thumbsup:
one of my buddys up there was running it and was having problems so hes in methanol instead

[Glass]

Shawn, after i get the Dodge figured out, if your mustang isnt ready, ill let you take it down the track once on a test and tune day or night.

Methanol or E85 would be fun...i might become a 50/50 pump gas/meth baby if needed.

[shawns 64 F100]

cool john, thanks, I would like to do that. I dont know how well them fuels would work mixed. If you do decide to alternative fuels, ask dustin Travis about his problems with E85, he is the only one i know so far that had any troubles, so he switched to methanol and it fixed his problem, im thinking it was like a top end lubrication probem, but not for certain. He dont run a T stop or anything so thats prob why his does and others dont

[Glass]

Scwer it the 10.5:1 pistons costs tooo much i think im oing to have todo 12.28:1CR instead, amnit, that meanse omre power.

Everything not spelled correctly , including this sentencen was re-done so that it makes sense...im sure everyine eles on here isnt on the same planet as me right now...hahahahaha

[Glass]

Crap it all, maybe just a stock 454 out of an old truck just to get it running..lol...then build THE engine over the next year or so.

[Nate's91]

thats smaller than the cam ill run in my 429.

Not by much (your cam specs more duration but not more lift)

His cam:
288/298 duration (249/259 @ .050), .615"/.620"

Your cam:
304/304 duration (284/284 @ .050), .615"/.615"

His 25 more cubes will help tame down that cam.
Just bored here at work and pointing out the obvious.


BTW - Nice numbers!

[Glass]

IM going to try a smaller tamer cam in the stock 454 i have for now...

this will actually be the biggest cam i have ever personally ran, even though it is hydraulic, i didnt feel like messing around with a solid cam in this engine.

292 int./292 exh Duration (244 int./244 exh.@50) 0.550 int./0.550 exh. lift
110 lobe separation.

Should work like a charm even though i dont have the compression these cams like to work with, im sure it will work just fine for me.

[shawns 64 F100]

that sounds like a bit over a standard RV cam. lol you sure thats all you want?

[Glass]

I think i can compensate for the lower compression by going to 4.33 gears...

[Nate's91]

Just remember your engine has lower compression than the factory rated it, being at a higher altitude and all.

BB (even mild) + 4.33 gears = hope you can stick it to the ground!

[shawns 64 F100]

I think i can compensate for the lower compression by going to 4.33 gears...
you need a T-stop and a 2 barrell! lmfao!
wait, thats roundy rounds Except for the T-Stop! :D




Dammit Bobbi! I have to continuously check my post for typos and mispelling errors, I think ill just let it fly weather anyone can read it or not from now on, spelling errors and typos are contagious, just like when a zombie bites ya!

[Glass]

BB (even mild) + 4.33 gears = hope you can stick it to the ground!

Street tires...no way...lol...my slicks, work great. My chevelle with 4.56:1 and supercharged 454 stuck just fine with the slicks, but the tires i had on there for a month looked like they had bene on there for almost a year..



you need a T-stop and a 2 barrell! lmfao!
wait, thats roundy rounds Except for the T-Stop! :D

T-stop it to run 13.99 in Top Street, watch all sandbaggers break out against me...hahaha, Id be the only one dumb enough to dial my car in at a 14.00, only to run the 10.5-13.99 class.



When i had the other junkyard engine (one of em i blew up this year...) It was a 100,000 mile 454 probobally around 7.8-8.0:1 CR with the 4.56's and a 3500 stall and with the 'normal' solidlift cam we usually run it was pulling 12.96-13.12.......Turned to 6,000 every time.

Even the pass it came apart it ran within .0003 ET of the pass before it..lol..

At higher elevation (altitude is distance off the ground, elevation is distance above sea level) The compression ratio of an engine does not change. What changes is the compression pressure in the cylinder. The compression pressure decreases with gains in elevation . The compression pressure decreases due to the loss in 'air density' with gain in elevation.

A 12:1 engine at sea level is still a 12:1 engine at 10,000ft. But, at 10,000 feet, there is less density in the air, the less dense air results in less cylinder pressure, which inturn results in lower performance.

Holy crap, i cant believe i just typed all of that.

[shawns 64 F100]

T-stop it to run 13.99 in Top Street, watch all sandbaggers break out against me...hahaha, Id be the only one dumb enough to dial my car in at a 14.00, only to run the 10.5-13.99 class.
yarp and the only one in existence making a 120-130 mps pass @ 14.00 ET lmfao!
holy crap I cant believe I had to remove most of your quote just to reply :D

[Glass]

DUUUUDDDEEEEE, whats mine say....

SWEET>>> Whats mine say.....

DUDE, whats mine say

SWEET!!!...Whats MINE say...

DOOOOODEEEE...WHATS mine say...

hahaha

[shawns 64 F100]

lmfao! SWEEEEEET!!!!

[Glass]

I got my cam and lifters today...

I got home at about 5:30...no package from summit racing...crap...called thier customer support cause i didnt get an order number when i ordered it for some dumb reason....

They gave me my order number, i looked up shipping info...was on a UPS truck and Out For Delivery at 4:55 this morning...Crap, i thought he missed the house, or forgot or something...

At about 7:30 there was a knock on the door and it was the UPS guy..lol.. I thought it was a little late, but im still happy..

The cam and lifters smell so damn good...

Tomorrow i have to put a transmission in a truck, swap transfer cases on another truck, then start cleaning up/tearing apart the junkyard engine to install new cam, lifters, timing chain, cam sprocket, and crank sprocket, rockers, pushrods, pushrod guides, then seal it all up with new gaskets and new water pump and put new intake on it...Ohh and i have to paint it too i guess....

P.S. ---- DUDEE!!!!!

[Nate's91]

I
Tomorrow i have to put a transmission in a truck, swap transfer cases on another truck, then start cleaning up/tearing apart the junkyard engine to install new cam, lifters, timing chain, cam sprocket, and crank sprocket, rockers, pushrods, pushrod guides, then seal it all up with new gaskets and new water pump and put new intake on it...Ohh and i have to paint it too i guess....



Well, DU IT!!! :D



Last time I recieved something from Summit, it wasn't delivered until around 630-7ish. Weird...

[shawns 64 F100]

Sweeeeeeeeet!!!

[Glass]

Sweeeeeeeeet!!!

DUUUUUDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

I cant complain about the cam though, ordered at 9PM Monday night, got it today, less than 48 hours...i like when the Reno store has what i need in stock. It has NEVER taken Summit Racing more than 2-3 days to get me parts i order cept on weekend orders, and thats with thier "free 4-5 day" shipping....


If someone else wants in on the SWEEETTT--- DUUUUDDDEEEEEE, postings, i can switch from "dude, wheres my car" to Lil John , then we can all in harmony pull off the crack head sounding HUH, WHAT, OKAYYYYY

[shawns 64 F100]

DUUUUUDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

I cant complain about the cam though, ordered at 9PM Monday night, got it today, less than 48 hours...i like when the Reno store has what i need in stock. It has NEVER taken Summit Racing more than 2-3 days to get me parts i order cept on weekend orders, and thats with thier "free 4-5 day" shipping....


If someone else wants in on the SWEEETTT--- DUUUUDDDEEEEEE, postings, i can switch from "dude, wheres my car" to Lil John , then we can all in harmony pull off the crack head sounding HUH, WHAT, OKAYYYYY

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!
one day (hopefulyl next season we can park at bandimere and rev our engines up and say "whats mine sound like? and youll say DUDE!!! then youll say the same and il lsay SWEEEEEEEEETT!:D

[Glass]

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!
one day (hopefulyl next season we can park at bandimere and rev our engines up and say "whats mine sound like? and youll say DUDE!!! then youll say the same and il lsay SWEEEEEEEEETT!:D

I was thinking about bandimere....every race next year im going to fill out something off the wall and sarcastic in the "racer accomplishments" section, and see if they start announcing them.

I have already started my list...

As far as the engine revving goes, DUUUUUUDDDDDEEEEEEE!! okay.

hahaha

I was thinking also...First club clash of the year, will you be towing with your f-150? I ....... have.......an.........idea........:glasses10:

[shawns 64 F100]

well if I can get my F100 up and going to be finished for club clash I will try to haul it down there. whats... your...idea???
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET

[Glass]

Thinking heavy metal....Joe Dirt wigs, standing around your truck, headbanging, with a white strobe going in the back of your truck....

Or, if racing in something slower than 14.0, instead of putting a helmet on under the tower, or in the ssttaaggiinngg lanes, putting a hairnet on.


!!!!!!EEEEEEEDDDDDDDDUUUUUUUUUUDDDDDDDDDD (not as satanic as KISS records are when theyre backwards, damnit...)

[Nate's91]

Thinking heavy metal....Joe Dirt wigs, standing around your truck, headbanging, with a white strobe going in the back of your truck....


We can use my 81 camaro too. It'll fit right in :D

[shawns 64 F100]

Thinking heavy metal....Joe Dirt wigs, standing around your truck, headbanging, with a white strobe going in the back of your truck....

Or, if racing in something slower than 14.0, instead of putting a helmet on under the tower, or in the ssttaaggiinngg lanes, putting a hairnet on.


!!!!!!EEEEEEEDDDDDDDDUUUUUUUUUUDDDDDDDDDD (not as satanic as KISS records are when theyre backwards, damnit...)
heck yeah, I bought one of them cheezy grey beards for helloween this year and I went to the bar for the band that played as a wizzard. I could wear the beard and get a mullet mabye end up looking like a hybrid of cole and that Jim caudill guy
SWEEEEEEEEET
Nate your more than welcome to race with either of us. I think po boys and team roadkill should team up and make a big hit on club crash next season together we took 13th place last season which isnt bad for a small team of 4-5 men racing against 400 corvettes :D and most of us were in pickemup trucks

[Glass]

We were 13th last year, and i dont know where we finished this year cause there were alot of races when only 2 of us showed up..lol

I dont see where it would hurt, as long as we keep the name poor boy racing..lol Weve had that name for 8 or 9 years now..lol

DDDUUUUUUDDDDEEEEE!!! Jim Caudel and his blonde, streaming, barbie like MAN pony tail are just sexy, alright..hahahahaa

[shawns 64 F100]

I made a mistake as a team we finished 11th, our best driver was 13th overall as individual points go.

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!

[Glass]

DUUUUUUDDDEEEEEE.......

I got to thinking about it, and as hillbilly as it sounds, Poor Boy, and Roadkill go hand in hand...hahahaha...

We will be having our racer meeting in feb or March up here at stormys bar, pizza, drinks, a pull down projector style movie screen, and last year we had a porta-tree there and were whoopin on eachother on the life size practice tree....You bring the pin-ups though.

[shawns 64 F100]

sounds like a blast, dont let me forget about it. you going to the third annual tri town racers meeting tomorrow night?

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!!!

[Glass]

Not going to be at the "meeting" tonight...Im getting the engine ready to drop in the car maybe monday or tuesday...DDDDDDUUUUUUUDDDDDDEEEE!!!!!!

Its almost there, just need a different oil pickup tube for it, then its ready to drop in , then only about another 2 weeks till ittl be fired and maybe driving, cash flow dependant

[Glass]

DDDUUUUUDDDDDEEEE!!!!

heres a pic of the junkyard engine, almost ready to "mate" with the tranny and drop in.

http://a78.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/66/l_8017b4677faa4e579315d83561685a4d.jpg

[thesoundmaster]

DDDDUUUUUUUDDDDEEEEE You sent me that pic last night!

Lookin purty

[shawns 64 F100]

DDDUUUUUDDDDDEEEE!!!!

heres a pic of the junkyard engine, almost ready to "mate" with the tranny and drop in.

http://a78.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/66/l_8017b4677faa4e579315d83561685a4d.jpg

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!

[Glass]

DDDUUUUUUDDDDDDEEEEE!!!!

heres a crappy cell phone photo of it about 35 minutes ago....

http://a352.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/18/l_d9f0be25894d525e94e6e86e46ef9ff7.jpg

[shawns 64 F100]

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET

I should be signing my lease papers tomorrow, found an old house to rent out with plenty of garage space :thumbsup:

[Glass]

DDDUUUUUUDDDDEEEE!!!

Nice, garage space is nice to have, then you can bring your truck home and work on it when you get bored with the pinup girl (that wont happen) err....youll work on it sometime im sure.

The 454 looks like a little V6 when its stuffed in the dodge, its a shame..but its all gonna be okay...

[thesoundmaster]

DDDDDUUUUUUUDDDDEEEEEEE


That looks SSSWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTT


Shawn, where ya movin to?

[Hypoid]

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET

I should be signing my lease papers tomorrow, found an old house to rent out with plenty of garage space :thumbsup:DDDUUUUUUUDDEEEEEEE! Where at?

[Glass]

Here is what i was envisioning starting about half way thru this post, thank you Chuck.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=67EvAeU1mxY

[thesoundmaster]

No problem

http://youtube.com/watch?v=WVXGC896Jdw


and remember... "Be Excellent to each other....... PARTY ON DUDES"

[Glass]

Best movie of the summer....

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ME79WNv8QS0

[shawns 64 F100]

DDDUUUUUUUDDEEEEEEE! Where at?
moving a bit north to arapahoe county. found a house that I can store all my tools for work there, just south of arapahoe road

[thesoundmaster]

moving a bit north to arapahoe county. found a house that I can store all my tools for work there, just south of arapahoe road



DUUUUDDDDDDDEEEEEE around the Foxfield area?

[shawns 64 F100]

yup its in there

[thesoundmaster]

Nice nice. Two of my real good friends live over there. Bout 8 minutes from where I'm at too! Infact, the diff let go just as I was on the east boundry of Foxfield

[shawns 64 F100]

youll be able to find me really easy then, I can be spotted from parker road, right behind that church they built just south of a wrap a ho

[thesoundmaster]

nice nice!!!! Just around the corner from my buddy Ted.

[Glass]

nice nice!!!! Just around the corner from my buddy Ted.

Does Bill live close to Ted?

[thesoundmaster]

I dunno, but Bill's mom's hot. I remember when Bill and Ted were Freshmen and she was a Senior

[Glass]

hahahahahaha

Ohh, BTW, transmission is mated to the engine now, headlights, taillights, interior and dash lights, ignition switch, old AM pushbutton stereo, door chime,defroster and "interior cooling fan" all in working order now.

Distributor is stabbed in, spark plug wires ready to cut to length, shifter cable ready to adjust, headers are on, sparkplugs in, good stuff.

if i get the spark plug wires cut to length and made up, build the transmission crossmember, and do some wiring the car will be ready to fire (by just filling the carb bowls up with fuel) No fuel system, driveshaft, or radiator yet.

Tomorrow, Chuck, we might be meeting up with a guy in Morrison who has an electric fan and a fuel pump i might be buying, if thats okay...

DDDDUUUUUDDDDDDEEEEEE!!!!!!

Fire by Sunday? Whattya think?

Hopefully after this weekend, ill have a sexy video like this one right here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtKXnLSBaDQ

[thesoundmaster]

Fine by me, ever get the wiring figured out you told me you were having trouble with?

[Glass]

Did not get the brake lights or tunr signals figured out....the brake light i remember now was a hydraulic switch located on the side of the master cyl....so tomorrow ill figure out which wire the brake lights are easy enough. For the turn signals i am going to go look at the 'parts' car i have at the end of town to see how they are wired in there. I did figure out my front parking lamp connections and front and rear turn signal connections, but i have not figured out how to wire the turn signal wires into the loom under the dash. Also i have not found the style parking lamps i want to have in the front yet.

I also found out the hard way that i need to put damn 12v bulbs in everywhere there is a 6v bulb in the car. The interior lighting and dash lighting seem to have a resistor already built in, but the exterior lighting, and the radio need the 12v system regulated down to 6v to work properly, or they need to be upgraded to 12v bulbs.

I also need to solder ground wires to my brake light, reverselight, and taillight housings. The housings actually are what ground it out, so im just going to solder wires to the housings, and ground the housings so that i know they will always have a good ground.

After i figure out the chassis electrical i will start on the engine electrical, and then once i have it all figured out, and placed, i will start repairing / replacing most of the underhood 'cloth' style wire.

BTW, i hate electrical, but i dont know why, its not really all too hard.

[Nate's91]

DUUUUDDDEEEEE, whats mine say....
SWEET>>> Whats mine say.....
DUDE, whats mine say
SWEET!!!...Whats MINE say...
DOOOOODEEEE...WHATS mine say...

lmfao! SWEEEEEET!!!!
DUDEE!!!!!
Sweeeeeeeeet!!!
DUUUUUDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!

DUUUUUUDDDDDEEEEEEE!!
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET

!!!!!!EEEEEEEDDDDDDDDUUUUUUUUUUDDDDDDDDDD (backwards)
SWEEEEEEEEET

DDDUUUUUUDDDDEEEEE!!!
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!
DUUUUUUDDDEEEEEE.......


SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!!!
DDDDDDUUUUUUUDDDDDDEEEE!!!!!!

DDDUUUUUDDDDDEEEE!!!!

DDDDUUUUUUUDDDDEEEEE
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!
DDDUUUUUUDDDDDDEEEEE!!!!

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET

DDDUUUUUUDDDDEEEE!!!

DDDDDUUUUUUUDDDDEEEEEEE
SSSWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTT

DDDUUUUUUUDDEEEEEEE!
DUUUUDDDDDDDEEEEEE

DDDDUUUUUDDDDDDEEEEEE!!!!!!


Sounds like you guys envy both Ashton Kutcher and Sean William Scott (AKA "Stifler").

That took a long time to quote all of you guys (copying and pasting) LOL

:D :D

[Hypoid]

DDDDUUUUUUUUUUDDDEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I see your car!!!!!!!!!!

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i253/Glazzed/IC13.jpg

[shawns 64 F100]

Sweeeeeeeeeet!

[RevT]

Dooood!!

[Glass]

DDDUUUUDDDDEEEEE!!!!!

Its alive. Didnt have time to get a video before i was 'asked' to turn the car off because it was too loud for right now.

Tomorrow ill get a video and soundclip of it running when i adjust the timing.

Shawn, without mufflers the Dodge sounds exactly like Stormys coupe..hahaha

[thesoundmaster]

Get those wipers adjusted yet? or are they still flying?

ALSO, find a driveshaft yet?

[Glass]

Not worried about wipers yet


Probally going to have to go up to erie to have a good shot at finding a driveshaft.

[Glass]

Gauges at night with dash lights on

http://a834.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/59/l_5cba4ff8eb2df5db3126fbbc1bc5e209.jpg

[thesoundmaster]

DDDDDUUUUUUUUDDDDDEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thats SSSSSWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTT!!!!!!!


Got that while I was watching Mr. Brooks last night. Highly recommend that movie. So now it runs, electrical works, wipers work a little too well, now all you need is that dang driveshaft, fuel system, and about $1000 in parts right?

[Glass]

No, the driveshaft, and fuelsystem and all the other parts i need are included in that $1000. I think i founf fuel cell, fuel fan, and a few other things i needed here in town.l