Howsabout a tour for the grocery-getters?

[Hypoid]

Just a nice drive in the high country, something a Michigan Exploder might survive.

I was thinking of taking Kingston Peak (http://www.traildamage.com/trails/index.php?id=14) over the hill to Rollins Pass East (http://www.traildamage.com/trails/index.php?id=19), which would put us at Jenny Creek (http://www.traildamage.com/trails/index.php?id=17)for the slightly modified urban wheelers. The lakes at the top of Rollins Pass are stocked, there are usually campers there, and (I think) charcol grills. There is an abandoned mine at the first lake, the Needles eye is in hiking distance from where the road ends. Last year I took a shortcut DOWN Jenny Creek in our stock XJ. I'd like to see it in the daylight, dents are possible.

If you want a day in the high country, but don't feel brave enough to go out with the rock-humpers, this could be a fun trip. If Rollins Pass wasn't so beautiful at the top the drive would be boring. What I like about this destination is that there are a few choices for activities, and paved roads out of the valley.

For dates I was thinking July 22nd, 28th or 29th.

Grocery-getters unite!

[rwmorrisonjr]

Those dates work for me, I'll be in the Jeep though, need to get it dirty.

[thesoundmaster]

I'll be there, in either the Ranger or Bronco

[Walking Eagle]

I like the 28th.

[Hypoid]

I like the 28th. I'm kinda partial to that Saturday as well.

[thesoundmaster]

I'm free for whenever!

[schmidlkofer]

i maycome...how far are we talkin fromt thornton area.

[Walking Eagle]

i maycome...how far are we talkin fromt thornton area.
I live in Westminster, a suburb just west of Thornton. According to Google it's about 33 miles to the Kingston Peak trail head.

[BLOODBANE]

Where does my pig fit in now........
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/BLOODBANE81230/Trail%20Runs/sp22.jpg?t=1184211003
I added some 4:88's and Lock-Rights F/R. Thats me on Spring Creek last weekend. Could I still run with the stockers? And would some of the Ranger Sect be allowed to come?

[Warrlord]

would some of the Ranger Sect be allowed to come?

If not, I can always bring the Bronco (the family fits in it better anyway) :D

[thesoundmaster]

I'm gunna bring the Bronco on this one. She hasn't been on a trail since Carnage Canyon in March.

[Mind_Boggler]

I'm takin' tha Pinto :P someone bring a tow-string

[NorthernStar08]

I'm takin' tha Pinto :P someone bring a tow-string

OMG you cracks me ups

[NorthernStar08]

SO Im blond.... whats the date set for this run?

[Hypoid]

Where does my pig fit in now........
Could I still run with the stockers? And would some of the Ranger Sect be allowed to come?Hmmm, put some 235x15s on it and you'll be good to go! :thumbsup: LOL

I've never been over Kingston Peak. Looking at the Trail Damage write-up, it looks like a mountain road. I have been up Rollins Pass East and it is a mountain road. Even a Subaru can make it up there:
http://www.rmftc.com/gallery/data/533/Subaru.JPG

Jenny Creek does get narrow, like driving in a tunnel at times. Throw in some off-camber obstacles and a full-size may have a close encounter of the tree kind. But what the hell do I know? I'm driving my wife's car!
http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=100531

http://www.rmftc.com/gallery/data/533/medium/Saxon_07_023.jpg

[Hypoid]

SO Im blond.... whats the date set for this run? Bobbi, I guess we are going with Saturday July 28th. I need to do more homework before I can set a time frame.

[RevT]

You got directions from the Springs? Can a 2wd Expedition make it with NO damage?

RevT

[POLiSH]

I live about 8 miles from Rollins Pass. I have taken our Subaru up Rollins pass about 30 times. No damage, just go-slow.

However if you take the Kingston Peak trail via Apex Road, I was just up there last week and there are some large rocks coming down that you have to either pull out of the way or roll off the side. Taking this trail slow is key with a non-off road vehicle.

Once you make your turn off to Kingston peak from Elk Park Service road this is where you have to take it easy. Once you pass the reclamation area “which is a big opening with two large mud puddles” it gets very rocky and narrow.

If this was being done on a Monday or Tuesday I would go if not have a safe trip and watch out for the 3pm Thunderstorms.

Of couse if you plan on driving up to Kingston Peak, I would not advise this in a non 4x4 vehicle this year do to the large amount of rocks that came down durning run off this year.

[Hypoid]

Thanks for that info POLiSH! I definitely want to keep it fun for the people who don't have a lot of mods. I was looking over topos before checking here: Apex road to Kingston Peak, hmmm. I just might be sending a PM later.

[POLiSH]

Let me get a topo together and upload it, if anyone needs anything I have topo's on the entire state.


Here is the TOPO I created. I opted to give you a link because the image is very large. It might take 30 seconds to several minutes depending on connection speed. To zoom in once loaded click on the map.

http://www.rkdefense.com/images/RollinsVille.BMP

I also created 5 waypoints for you GPS lovers out there:
DegMin / ElevFeet
001,39,54.306,-105,37.814, 9,205 ft
002,39,55.058,-105,35.811, 9,390 ft
003,39,55.357,-105,38.853, 10,432 ft
004,39,56.304,-105,39.234, 10,727 ft
005,39,55.504,-105,40.075, 11,070 ft

[schmidlkofer]

I live in Westminster, a suburb just west of Thornton. According to Google it's about 33 miles to the Kingston Peak trail head.

well what aree the dates? ill be up there friday the 20th and i have to unpack the penske truck and what not. so after then would be good if possible....

[Hypoid]

well what aree the dates? ill be up there friday the 20th and i have to unpack the penske truck and what not. so after then would be good if possible....We are looking to go the following weekend. I'm going to pm my cell # to you, that way we don't have to rely on you having internet.

FWIW, given POLiSH's input, I'm considering options to the Kingston Peak leg of the trip; something that RevT can bring the whole family on. Jenny Creek should provide a little entertainment for the people who have 4 wheel drive, and it ends at Yankee Doodle lake.

Nice Topo POLiSH! Not like I'm a map expert or anything (I'm not), but the free stuf on the web leaves much to be desired. I think I'll be driving around the area Sunday afternoon, get a concept of how much time we'd need for different routes.

[rwmorrisonjr]

I fixed your link to the map: http://www.rkdefense.com/images/RollinsVille.BMP

You must use Unix!

So I'm guessing that the run will be the 28th, which works great for me since I'm getting back into town late on the 20th.

[POLiSH]

I fixed your link to the map: http://www.rkdefense.com/images/RollinsVille.BMP

You must use Unix!

So I'm guessing that the run will be the 28th, which works great for me since I'm getting back into town late on the 20th.

rwmorrisonjr,

Thanks, yeah I do and I was at work when I typed that up.lol thanks.

[schmidlkofer]

ok my number is 5802311872. call me if plans change ill add your number to my phone....my name is logan by the way..

[RevT]

OK SO what are the dates? How do I get there? Whos on first? Whats on second? Gotta see what the Wife has planned...


RevT

[Hypoid]

Saturday the 28th at the Safeway in Idaho Springs. Lets shoot for 10ish, that could have us eating lunch at Yankee Doodle around noonish, those who want to run Jenny Creek should be done before 4ish.

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?formtype=address&country=US&popflag=0&latitude=&longitude=&name=&phone=&level=&addtohistory=&cat=&address=2425+Miner+St&city=Idaho+Springs&state=CO&zipcode=

[thesoundmaster]

I'll be there!!!!!!

[Walking Eagle]

I'll be there.

[schmidlkofer]

ill try real hard to be there.

[thesoundmaster]

Jeff, you bringin the Bronco? I think I'll bring mine up, it hasn't seen a trail in a few months

[Walking Eagle]

Jeff, you bringin the Bronco? I think I'll bring mine up, it hasn't seen a trail in a few months
Yes, I'll be bringing the Bronco.

[RevT]

Saturday the 28th at the Safeway in Idaho Springs. Lets shoot for 10ish, that could have us eating lunch at Yankee Doodle around noonish, those who want to run Jenny Creek should be done before 4ish.

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?formtype=address&country=US&popflag=0&latitude=&longitude=&name=&phone=&level=&addtohistory=&cat=&address=2425+Miner+St&city=Idaho+Springs&state=CO&zipcode=

Well, Sorry but I cant make it. We are celebrating my Little Ones BDay on that Day. She will be 6. Having a party sometime in the afternoon.

RevT

[rwmorrisonjr]

I'll be there with the Jeep, need to break in the 2" lift.

[Walking Eagle]

Cory does not get on the computer much and I mentioned this trip to him. He is going to try to make it, but he is still having emission issues. Either way I will be there and he can ride bitch if his Bronco is not ready.

[Hypoid]

Cool! There's a few more I haven't met.

I'll be there with the Jeep, need to break in the 2" lift.
I don't know anything about the new Jeeps, but one thing that really helped the XJ was disconnecting the front sway bar. I sorta made quick-disconnects for it: http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=257851

Since then the rear sway bar has mysteriously vannished.

[NorthernStar08]

well schmidlkofer and i will see if we can make a appearence....

LT you going?

[schmidlkofer]

ill see what magic i can work.

well schmidlkofer and i will see if we can make a appearence....

LT you going?

[schmidlkofer]

so im not to sure about this. im a broke 17 yr old kid at the moment. ill see if i can get some money from mother tho....wow i feel young saying that.

[Hypoid]

Ahhh 17, I remember 17! I burned up one of the injectors in my Mom's Volvo.:evil:

Seriously though, if you're still trying to sell the sploder, you don't want to drive it on Jenny Creek. Body damage is not a strong selling point.

If nothing else, maybe you can meet up with someone who is going and ride with them. At this point I don't think I have a seat open, but I'm taking it for granted that both twins and their buddy want to go.

Anyone?

[thesoundmaster]

That reminds me, i gotta see why the Bronco's leaking oil and over-heating

[Walking Eagle]

That reminds me, i gotta see why the Bronco's leaking oil and over-heating
I thought that was normal.

[thesoundmaster]

I thought that was normal.


is it? If so then i'm fine!!!:thumbsup::D

I have to figure out what I'm going to do about my Power Steering (i'm lazy and still havent fixed it) seeing as it leaks a bottle of fluid every hour or so... Regardless, it'll all be taken care of by saturday.

[schmidlkofer]

hmmm.....true that its not stock i have not seen the trail or even pictures of it yet. my explorer has 36's and im not wanting body damage if possible. what do you think? capable or just keep it at home.



Ahhh 17, I remember 17! I burned up one of the injectors in my Mom's Volvo.:evil:

Seriously though, if you're still trying to sell the sploder, you don't want to drive it on Jenny Creek. Body damage is not a strong selling point.

If nothing else, maybe you can meet up with someone who is going and ride with them. At this point I don't think I have a seat open, but I'm taking it for granted that both twins and their buddy want to go.

Anyone?

[Walking Eagle]

hmmm.....true that its not stock i have not seen the trail or even pictures of it yet. my explorer has 36's and im not wanting body damage if possible. what do you think? capable or just keep it at home.
Here is some trail information with pictures for you.
http://www.traildamage.com/trails/index.php?id=17

[schmidlkofer]

hmmm shoot...im not to sure.. until i get the sammy i want to but....i just need to sell my explorer.

[rwmorrisonjr]

Don't think I'll be able to make this one as something's come up (airport run) but still want to run these at some point this season. Maybe we can do another run for those who can't go this weekend.

[thesoundmaster]

I'm planning on it, if I can get the Bronco up to par, so far it needs a Power Steering pump, lower radiator hose is leaking and it's a half quart low on oil from the last time I drove it (last week). I'm too pissed off right now to work on it, so i'll work on it tomorrow.


I swear, its as picky as John's F-250 is...

[BLOODBANE]

Still thinking about it myself. I want to run Jenny Creek the most. If I do come I will stay the night after the run in Denver(or someplace close by) and then cruise on home on Sun. I will know for sure tomorrow...........

[Walking Eagle]

Jenny Creek is the one I'm looking forward to.

[thesoundmaster]

Jenny Creek is the one I'm looking forward to.

Same. Which is why I'm so focused on the Bronco

[mattadams]

I havent responded yet, but I wont be able to go. I dont trust my damn explorer around town, much less up in the mountains right now until I can fix a few things on it.
Anyways, bloodbane if you need a place to crash I'm not exactly in the denver area but I do have a spare room... lol.

[Warrlord]

Still thinking about it myself. I want to run Jenny Creek the most. If I do come I will stay the night after the run in Denver(or someplace close by) and then cruise on home on Sun. I will know for sure tomorrow...........

Put on a fluffy wool sheep suit.............................:jeff:

Then Jeff would let you spend the night at his place :rofl2:

[Walking Eagle]

Same. Which is why I'm so focused on the Bronco
I would not worry about it, we can stop every half mile and add oil. :D

Oh Larry, I've temporarily stepped away from the farm animal thing. I've been eyeballing some eye candy at work.:glasses10:

[Warrlord]

I've been eyeballing some eye candy at work.:glasses10:

Did you get a new job at the Zoo? :whistle:

[Walking Eagle]

Did you get a new job at the Zoo? :whistle:
I've never thought about it, but the zoo would be like looking at live Playboy magazine. I think I'm going to the zoo Sunday.

[Red]

i'd go but i'm afraid i'd break something, and without the jeep i cant work so...

[NorthernStar08]

I've never thought about it, but the zoo would be like looking at live Playboy magazine. I think I'm going to the zoo Sunday.


ummm please dont I was already taking the kids....

[Hypoid]

That's your call to make Tony, but you just stated the reason for organizing a selection of easier trails to run. FWIW my wife's Cherokee made it down Jenny Creek in stock trim (tired springs and 235s): http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=100531

This year I have a 2" budget Boost, the same old 235s, and removed/disconnected the sway bars. I have a tank skid now as well. I'm feeling pretty confident based on what I saw last year.

It looks like I'll have a seat open. Brian opted out, the twins are caught up in the Buffalo Bill Days moment. We'll see what happens with that.

[BLOODBANE]

As of right now I should be seeing you folks tomorrow around 10ish. At the Safeway in Idaho Springs, correct?

[Walking Eagle]

I'm planning on being at Safeway about 10:00.

[BLOODBANE]

When we are finished on the trails are we still near Idaho Springs?

[Hypoid]

Ok, so I have Chuck, Jeff with maybe Cory riding, and Mark. I already have Chuck's cell #. Jeff and Mark, I'll PM my # to you.

Mark, Jenny Creek is close to Rollinsville, off Highway 119. Go North and you can drive through Nederland, the Boulder Canyon and drive through Boulder. Go South and you can Drive past Central City/Blackhawk and intersect I-70 just East of Idaho Springs.

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&country=US&addtohistory=&searchtab=home&formtype=address&popflag=0&latitude=&longitude=&name=&phone=&level=&cat=&address=&city=Rollinsville&state=CO&zipcode=

Jeremy decided to come. We are going to drown some worms in Yankee Doodle lake after Jenny Creek trail.

Logan, if you want to ride along, you need to call me.

We have tickets to the pancake breakfast at the Fire Dept. I'll check the thread before I leave in the morning.

Mike

[Hypoid]

Might be another from the Cherokee forum showing up, I'll see you all there.

Mike

[Walking Eagle]

This is how my day went.
http://walking-eagle.com/bronco/overheating.jpg
Made it up above Central City, then ran into overheating problems. I had to call an early end to the day. Kept overheating back to Denver.:BangHead:

[mattadams]

Well hopefully others had a good time? :)

[schmidlkofer]

sorry i could not make it. budget was not working.... maybe another time.

[Warrlord]

Well????? Aside from Jeff's short & disappointing trail report.............

What happened to everyone else???

I was wanting to go but it was my Saturday to work :mad: :angryfire: :BangHead: :cussing: damn, I hate working Saturdays

[Walking Eagle]

I promise I did not get hungry. Cory and I turned around before noon about a mile from Nevadaville up above Central City.

[thesoundmaster]

Well????? Aside from Jeff's short & disappointing trail report.............

What happened to everyone else???

I was wanting to go but it was my Saturday to work :mad: :angryfire: :BangHead: :cussing: damn, I hate working Saturdays
Just walked in the door, at a quarter till 1. No problems, just got carried away exploring the area around Jenny Creek.

Larry, Mark and I determined we HAVE to run this run with you and anyone else that want's to go, Tony you were also requested in the list of have to's to run this one. It was a riot! We started the day, after I passed my radiator problems onto Jeff (sorry man, I didn't know it was contageous, blame cory, he gave the problems to me after CORE), we did some exploring on some of the roads up over Central City. Ended up running Yankee Hill on accident, wasn't a bad mistake, infact it was a great run. The rain came in after Cory and Jeff turned around and stuck with us for the better part of Yankee Hill, which made it that much cooler experience. After we completed that, we headed up to Rollinsville to where we hit the Moffat Tunnel road leading to Jenny Creek. It had been raining up there as well so there were puddles everywhere... this is where Mark and I started competing for who could make the biggest splash... Mark won. Ran Jenny Creek, had a riot, its a narrow trail, lots of fun obsticles, and a blast. The first things said when we got done were "Larry HAS to do this one!!!" Afterwords, we went up to Needle Eye Tunnel, hiked up to the tunnel, good half mile hike one way, hung out there for a while, then headed into town for dinner. On the way back into Denver, Mark got pulled over, no big deal, nothing happened, I'll let him explain if he wants to.

Mike, thanks for organizing this, it was a blast!

[schmidlkofer]

just glad everything turned out to be alright. talked to a few people on the phone briefly....but thats a whole different story.

[Hypoid]

Holy freakin keeerap it was a long day! I got home just before midnight, finally unloaded.

I've decided to re-name this run the Lost Boys Tour. Since the un-modified rig was Chuck's Bronco, and my XJ was the smallest, we tried to take the back roads to Rollins Pass East. I'm not sure, but I think we may have done Yankee Hill (FS 175.2...or 3, then a C and a B). After getting directions back to Central City, we resisted trying any other dirt roads just because they had a sign with names we recognized. We took highway 119 up to Rollinsville, headed over to Jenny Creek.

Jenny Creek was terrible! Huge rocks everywhere, a full size Dodge pickup blocked the trail, nobody had fun, I think Mark might have locked his hubs, I did not get any body damage, Chuck will probably lead the next run.
























OK, we had a blast! Jeff, Dude! Whatever you have scheduled for the Bronco, bump it up a little. I think Chuck does want to go back soon. I didn't wash the Jeep or fill the tank tonight. Hopefully she won't see it in the morning.

http://www.rmftc.com/gallery/data/533/lost_boys.JPG
The Lost Boys...

[thesoundmaster]

Yeah Mike, we did do Yankee Hill, Trail Damage names the main road as FS175.3

[Hypoid]

Wow! I'll try to work on pics in between scoldings. I forgot to bring her a burger also. :knock:

The Hot-Rod show is today (Sun), not sure when I'll be back on. I'm looking forward to Mark's pics, the UFOs attacked my camera again. :(

[NorthernStar08]

Did Mark make it home (the purple expo) His wife contacted Logan who then called me.......

[Warrlord]

I wanted to go with you all but duty called :mad:


Sounds like you all had a blast.
Hopefully, the next time you guys go there, I'll be able to make it.

What's this about Mark getting pulled over??? :confused:

[Hypoid]

What's this about Mark getting pulled over??? :confused: I'm guessing that taking 119 past CC/Blackhawk had something to do with that. I took the road less traveled; Highway 72 to 93.

The one time I thought he would meet Gilpin County's finest, they caught him being good. Chuck and I had just cleared two of the bigger puddles in the road when the Sheriff drove past in the opposite direction. Mark said he didn't go through the puddles that time. LOL

[thesoundmaster]

Complicated story behind why Mark got pulled over, but since we had been out late with no cell service, Marks wife was getting worried about him and all that. It was funny how he got pulled over, the Boggers gave him away. I called Logan, Mark called his wife, everything was fine.

[schmidlkofer]

Complicated story behind why Mark got pulled over, but since we had been out late with no cell service, Marks wife was getting worried about him and all that. It was funny how he got pulled over, the Boggers gave him away. I called Logan, Mark called his wife, everything was fine.

glad everything turned out good. i got worried as soon as i heard marks wife.....next run ill try to make tho i need to meet all these people i talked on the phone with.

[thesoundmaster]

good news! the Bronco is no longer leaking antifreeze and the power steering fluid has slowed down a ton!

[NorthernStar08]

glad everything turned out good. i got worried as soon as i heard marks wife.....next run ill try to make tho i need to meet all these people i talked on the phone with.
hop a bus come to centennial

[Red]

Just walked in the door, at a quarter till 1. No problems, just got carried away exploring the area around Jenny Creek.

Larry, Mark and I determined we HAVE to run this run with you and anyone else that want's to go, Tony you were also requested in the list of have to's to run this one. It was a riot! We started the day, after I passed my radiator problems onto Jeff (sorry man, I didn't know it was contageous, blame cory, he gave the problems to me after CORE), we did some exploring on some of the roads up over Central City. Ended up running Yankee Hill on accident, wasn't a bad mistake, infact it was a great run. The rain came in after Cory and Jeff turned around and stuck with us for the better part of Yankee Hill, which made it that much cooler experience. After we completed that, we headed up to Rollinsville to where we hit the Moffat Tunnel road leading to Jenny Creek. It had been raining up there as well so there were puddles everywhere... this is where Mark and I started competing for who could make the biggest splash... Mark won. Ran Jenny Creek, had a riot, its a narrow trail, lots of fun obsticles, and a blast. The first things said when we got done were "Larry HAS to do this one!!!" Afterwords, we went up to Needle Eye Tunnel, hiked up to the tunnel, good half mile hike one way, hung out there for a while, then headed into town for dinner. On the way back into Denver, Mark got pulled over, no big deal, nothing happened, I'll let him explain if he wants to.

Mike, thanks for organizing this, it was a blast!

well i will be ordering new, longer shocks next week when i get paid, soo i'm up to going once i get 'em installed!

[NorthernStar08]

I wanted to go with you all but duty called :mad:


Sounds like you all had a blast.
Hopefully, the next time you guys go there, I'll be able to make it.

What's this about Mark getting pulled over??? :confused:

I also talked to marks wife.... she was just worried..... ya'll find a way of getting a hold of your loved ones if your gonna go traping around the woods.... please?

[schmidlkofer]

haha bus ya right/ ill look up directions and come one of these weekendds.

[NorthernStar08]

haha bus ya right/ ill look up directions and come one of these weekendds.

Dude you should come over friday I get paid and have a paid day off....