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Warrlord
05-23-2007, 06:16 PM
For summer/late summer time frame.

Spring Creek (http://www.traildamage.com/trails/index.php?id=36)

Holy Cross (http://www.traildamage.com/trails/index.php?id=11)

Iron Chest (http://www.traildamage.com/trails/index.php?id=8)

These trails are rated at 8. The ratings can be decieving because Chinamans is rated an 8 but it can done by stockers because of the bypasses.

There are only two Spring Creek bypasses, one of them is easy but the other one is pretty tough. Starkman (Rich) took his Ranger there last year in stock form. He had to be tugged up one obstacle but did the rest on his own. He did receive body damage during that run more than once. It's pretty tough trail & not very forgiving. A stocker can do it as Rich proved but you'll need to be willing to accept body damage and undercarriage damage if you run this trail.

Holy Cross has no bypasses. The lower parts of the trail is fun, a couple challenges but nothing too tough. The real fun starts as you get near French Creek, it has boulders to crawl over. My truck slid off a boulder there last year & that's how I bent my rock slider...................I didn't slide over it, the truck dropped hard & fast on it. From French Creek on up, it's definetly not for stockers & tires less than 33" if you run this trail.

Iron Chest has no bypasses. The boulder garden is only about a half mile long, but what a bumpy-ass half mile it is. The rocks/boulders in the garden range from a diameter of around 6" to 2.5 feet. It has torn up driveshafts & diff covers & tie rods & drag links, & track bars in just that half mile. You'll definetly need ground clearance for this trail & tires no less than 33". After the boulder garden, it's just bumpy but no big boulders to climb over. It's great at the top but just remember that you have to go back through the boulders on your way out. I would not suggest a stocker or near stocker rig if you run this trail.

On the 3 trails above, a tight limited slip or a locker will give you a nice advantage because there's several spots on each trail that will leave you 3 Wheeling unless you have flex like Diggers Ranger or a nice rock buggy.

Vote in the poll for your choice of which trail to run. Even if you feel your rig might not be up to the task yet, you might have plans for lifting, etc, before then so it might be ready by the the trail run(s). The time frame I'm thinking of is..........

7/21
7/22
7/28
7/29
8/11
8/12
8/26

If you wanna go but don't wanna take your rig, somebody might have an open seat. The only open seat I'll have is if I run Iron Chest, my wife says she'll NEVER go on that trail again. She's scared of heights & there's a long section of narrow road past timberline that's around 1500 feet almost straight down right at the edge of the trail. But she'll be riding with me at Holy Cross & Spring Creek.

Please post any suggestions, comments, etc. :thumbsup:

Please discuss :D

thesoundmaster
05-23-2007, 06:24 PM
I'm game for any of them, however I could only run Spring Creek with my Bronco. Other than that, I think I'd wanna hitch a ride on the other 2.

solid axle
05-23-2007, 07:21 PM
holy cross have'nt done that one yet

Warrlord
05-23-2007, 07:35 PM
holy cross have'nt done that one yet

Hey Dan, I'll be doing all 3 of 'em this year. I just wanna try & get one of 'em that'll have the most participation so I can make that one an official RMFTC Trail Day & maybe make that one a yearly event like the Chinamans event turned out to be :thumbsup:

Whichever of the 2 that aren't voted in, we (& whoever else that wants to) can have a small group run at those because I sure don't wanna do them alone.

Holy Cross is a long haul for one day. I did it 2 years ago in one day. I was about falling asleep on the drive home. The year before that, I stayed in a cheapie podunk motel in Leadville & that worked out better than 2 years ago. If Holy Cross is voted in, I'll go scout the area for a nice camping spot for the event. I ran it 3 times but never bothered to look for a nice camping area near there.

Holy Cross takes almost all day

Spring Creek takes almost all day

Iron Chest is short & sweet

Walking Eagle
05-23-2007, 07:45 PM
I'm leaning towards Holy Cross in late August to give enough time to get gears and at least one locker done.

mattadams
05-23-2007, 07:54 PM
I did Holy Cross several years ago when I had my explorer and happy to say I'm the only one in the group i went with to make it past French Creek :).

Red
05-23-2007, 08:07 PM
with the plans i have for my rig i'll be keeping an eye on this thread

BLOODBANE
05-23-2007, 08:40 PM
The obstacle at French Creek(Holy Cross) is what stopped me last summer(you know Im up to finish that trail Larry), I would probably do everything in my power to hit the other 2 also...

thesoundmaster
05-23-2007, 08:41 PM
Shoot, I'd be interested in attending all 3 this summer. I just don't know if the Bronco could do Iron or Holy, and there is no way in hell I'm taking the Ranger up there yet... maybe next summer or closer to when it's paid off.

I'll watch it and talk to whoever's going, to see if i could hitch a ride for the trails I couldn't make it up.

solid axle
05-23-2007, 08:57 PM
hey larry that sounds good, have'nt done iron chest either,let me know, trying to find time to get my motor done

BLOODBANE
05-23-2007, 08:58 PM
Heres some pics of Larry at French Creek (Holy Cross) last year.................
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/BLOODBANE81230/RockRash%2006/IMG_0181.jpg?t=1179975300
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/BLOODBANE81230/RockRash%2006/IMG_0182.jpg?t=1179975389
And one of Jason and his Ex coming back.............
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/BLOODBANE81230/RockRash%2006/IMG_0202.jpg?t=1179975447

Starkman
05-23-2007, 09:22 PM
I would like to do Holy Cross, but Iron Chest would be the second choice. I will do Spring Creek some time this year anyway. French Creek looks killer! Is there a easier line or is that it? :eek:

Hypoid
05-23-2007, 10:07 PM
never mind

cory
05-24-2007, 05:51 AM
my only prob with spring creek is that first corner, did not like that at all.
but now that i have a good carb now i might be able to start the trail unlike last time i went, at least i was going uphill
http://www.walking-eagle.com/4_wheeling/slide_show_index/spring_creek_on_3_wheels-09.jpg

Tilt168
05-29-2007, 04:55 PM
um ill do any of them but later in the summer, still so much to fix on queenie!

Digger
05-29-2007, 07:29 PM
Well I vote for Iron Chest, although I have wanted to do Holy Cross as well. I tried Iron Chest 4 years ago, but I didn't have my bump stops set for my SAS and the diff kept crashing into the frame, so I backed out after 100 yards. Plus we had a near stocker with us. Just wasn't worth the effort. Now I'm ready to rock and roll.

thesoundmaster
06-02-2007, 12:40 AM
Let me know when the run for Spring Creek is. I'll take the Bronco up and take my buddy Noah with me, he's really really interested in 4 wheeling, looking for a truck for himself to get into it.

Warrlord
06-10-2007, 02:31 PM
So???........................When & where is our next run??? :D

thesoundmaster
06-10-2007, 03:20 PM
So???........................When & where is our next run??? :D

I vote next weekend!

I'll be there, even if i have to ask to ride along!

rwmorrisonjr
06-10-2007, 08:34 PM
Even I should be able to participate since I'll have the BII back by then!

BLOODBANE
06-11-2007, 09:29 PM
Give me a some time to get the 5:13's and lockers in the Ex

Tilt168
06-15-2007, 11:02 AM
the new alternator is in! 160amps of fun! and yeah i want a run soon!